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BUSH'S REAL OPPOSITION: REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVES
news/op/ed ^ | 3/28/2002 | Richard Reeves

Posted on 03/29/2002 3:08:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW

BUSH'S REAL OPPOSITION: REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVES

WASHINGTON --

It looks as if President Bush 's honeymoon is over. He's fine with the American people -- his personal approval rating is still in the 80 percent range -- but his own natives, Republican movement conservatives, are already restless.

Like Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan before him, Bush is already being branded as an appeaser of liberals and a sellout on a range of issues dear to the right-side hearts of many of his party's faithful. These are, it must be mentioned, impossible people who, more often than not, prefer to lose on principle than win through compromise.

They hate Washington and all it stands for, which is compromise and government of all the people. Unfortunately for them, presidents, even their own, have to work in this town -- and that means compromising, however reluctantly, with the opposition in Congress and the vast bureaucracies of governance and liberal constituencies.

Like baseball, it happens every spring. This year, even with overwhelming conservative (and liberal, too) support of the president in our officially undeclared war on terrorism, there are the right's gripes of the moment:

The president from Texas, lusting for Hispanic votes in his own state and in California, is too friendly with Mexico, pushing amnesty for illegal immigrants from south of the Rio Grande and San Diego.

He has sold out free-traders by imposing old-fashioned tariffs on the import of foreign steel -- or he is just chasing Democratic voters in Pennsylvania and West Virginia.

He may have been holding his nose when he did it, but he signed the campaign-finance reform bill pushed by Democratic senator Russell Feingold of Wisconsin and apostate Republican senator John McCain of Arizona.

As part of the war effort, he is advocating a 50 percent increase in the United States' minuscule foreign aid program. This one rebukes conservatives who were determined to set in stone the idea that there is no connection between poverty in the poor regions of the world and hatred and terrorism directed at the richest of nations, the United States.

He is pushing Israel to compromise in its endless war against the Palestinians in the occupied territories of Gaza and the West Bank.

He is pushing education policy and legislation that would increase federal influence in states, counties and towns across the country -- a big no-no to movement conservatives.

He is not pushing tax cuts the way he did during the campaign, partly because war and educational reform cost huge amounts of taxpayer revenues. Most of this was bound to happen, and any ideological president, Republican or Democrat, is eventually forced to betray campaign promises and core constituencies. The only difference this time is that because of continuing public support for military action (and its high costs), Bush is beginning to take more flak from his own kind than from the loyal opposition.

In the conservatives' favorite newspaper, The Washington Times, political columnist Donald Lambro began a news analysis last week by saying: "President Bush's about-face on trade tariffs, stricter campaign-finance regulations and other deviations from Republican doctrine is beginning to anger his conservative foot soldiers but does not seem to be cutting into his overall popularity -- yet."

John Berthoud, president of the National Taxpayers Union, puts it this way: "We're very disappointed about these new tariffs on steel and lumber. That's two new tax hikes on the American people. ... There's a concern among our members that in his effort to build and keep this coalition for the war, which is certainly needed, he's given Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle and the forces of big government a free pass."

Phyllis Schlafly, president of the Eagle Forum, added: "He's been getting a pass from us until now, but the amnesty bill is what tipped it over for us. I agree with Sen. Robert Byrd (a Democrat). This is 'sheer lunacy.' ... A lot of people thought Bush's education bill was terrible. But we didn't rant and rave about it because we wanted to support him on the war. That's changed. The amnesty bill is the hot issue out here. It's out of sync with what grassroots Americans want."

Finally, Stephen Moore, president of the conservative Club for Growth, said: "The danger for us is that Bush may begin to take the conservatives for granted, and you are seeing some signs of that happening with the steel tariff decision, foreign aid and other spending increases in the budget."

So it goes. There is nothing new about this. In the 1970s, William F. Buckley and other movement conservative leaders publicly "suspended" their support of President Richard Nixon because of what they considered his liberal moves toward welfare reform, tariffs and other issues considered part of the liberal domestic agenda -- to say nothing of his reaching out to communist China.

But in the end, Nixon kept them in line by pushing the war in Vietnam beyond reasonable limits. George Bush could accomplish the same political goal of uniting conservative support by continuing to push the war on terrorism into far nooks and crannies of the whole world.


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To: Texasforever
You certainly know all the welfare programs don't you?

Sure do ---they're big in my part of Texas. Real popular.

141 posted on 03/29/2002 5:04:57 PM PST by FITZ
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To: ModernDayCato
Bushtistas and Bushbots are too sterile, perhaps we should call the blind conservatives Lobsterbacks as a quid pro quo to our being called zealots and radicals and fringe (hey the Colonial rable was called those things)

Lobsterbacks it is??

142 posted on 03/29/2002 5:05:05 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: ModernDayCato
If you have read "anything Reagan wrote," (I worked for the guy at a fundraiser in CA, by the way), you would know, from "An American Life" his autobiography that the sole reason he was solicited to run for governor of CA was because he could bridge the gap between the "MODERATES" and the "CONSERVATIVES." You would know from that same book that he frequently complained about the "hard-right" who would rather lose on principle than compromise a little and win. You would know that he considered the 1986 tax INCREASE to be a defeat.

You would know all this because you read his own book, right? You would also know what isn't in the book---that despite his wonderful, eloquent speeches and writings on abortion, in his 8 years he did virtually nothing, but in less than 2 years, GWB has already issued three Ex Orders that have reduced abortions on federal properties, revived "parental consent," and otherwise ACTUALLY REDUCED abortions.

Reagan, whom I love as a president, was nevertheless FAR from the model "conservative" you think, and Bush far closer than you think (in terms of actual results). BTW, what do you want to be that the size of government/GNP is smaller under Bush than under Reagan, at any year?

143 posted on 03/29/2002 5:08:29 PM PST by LS
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To: LS
I am not playing any games with you. The top tax rate was 50% after the tax cuts passed in 1981. Then Reagan reduced the top tax rate again down to 28% in 1986. The reduction from 50% to 28% is a 44% reduction. That is where Prentice Hall gets that figure from. It is not my figure,it is theirs. Please take a look at the site I cited in my previous post to you. It lists the top tax rates going back to 1913. From 1981 to 1986, the top tax rate was 50%. Why argue over this. I keeping providing links that show what I am saying is correct. If you have something that contradicts Prentice Hall and other sites that I have linked you to, give it a shot and throw it out into the thread mix.
144 posted on 03/29/2002 5:10:33 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: rbmillerjr
First off, I assume you mean 'rabble' instead of 'rable.' Second of all, call me anything you want. I'm a big fan of lobsters...I won't eat them because they mate for life, and all I can picture is the other half of the ugly little couple searching around the sea floor unhappy.
145 posted on 03/29/2002 5:11:00 PM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: ex-snook
Even if we had "a defense shield to match" (which we wouldn't have in 10 years even in FULL DEPLOYMENT MODE), you still cannot act in isolation in the world. You need spies, allies who have access to bases, and so on. With all our power, we cannot stage an invasion of another country in most locations without a jumping off point.

But since the Brigadiers are so fond of WW II, let's use that: imagine the incredible difficulty of launching an invasion of Nazified Europe from America. Wouldn't happen.

146 posted on 03/29/2002 5:11:30 PM PST by LS
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To: ModernDayCato
Nah I'm not a name caller, unless I get called fringe, zealot, etc.
147 posted on 03/29/2002 5:12:43 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: LS
These people don't even know who coined "the big tent" phrase. They are either woefully ignorant about Ronald Reagan OR they are liars.
148 posted on 03/29/2002 5:13:32 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Reagan Man
These individuals [who criticize Bush's actions] are members of the "third party" movement in America.

I believe these people, who say they supported Bush during the primary and general election seasons, never actually supported the President..."

Your view is too simplistic. I criticize Bush and have voted the straight Republican ticket for over 40 years now. I donated to Bush and the party. I've gone to Republican state conventions, worked as an election official, passed out candidate brochures, etc.

Having Bush sign CFR is like finding out your wife is a prostitute. Yes, she brought in money so the family could weather the future better, but you don't want to have anything more to do with her.

149 posted on 03/29/2002 5:16:14 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: cva66snipe
You missed the second part of the stat. 96% approval among Republicans. Obviously, this doesn't mean all these zillions of disaffected Freepers. Course not. They are going to show him in 2004, and vote for, er . . . .
150 posted on 03/29/2002 5:16:35 PM PST by LS
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To: Texasforever
So let me see if I have this right fellow conservatives...instead of supporting Bush and critiqing him for signing a a terrible bill that limits free speech, you are going to do what..........

1)race to see who can be the best moderates the fastest with 80% approval ratings?

2)Compare Bush to Reagan? lol

3)start using arguments I used to hear from liberals about Reagan didnt do anything for the economy ?

151 posted on 03/29/2002 5:18:42 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: LS
Nice try. First off, Reagan had a knack for bringing people of different groups together. He was disarming and radiated a certain sincerity. While Bush shows some of these traits, I never went to bed worrying that I would wake up the next day a little less free under Reagan.

I know he bitched about the 'hard-right.' I also know that there were principles on which he would not waver, and he loved to 'mix it up' when he could. I do not see either trait in young Mr. Bush.

Furthermore, Reagan is the American dream. He understood that there were tons of Reagans out there, and he wanted government to get out of their way. Ending their free speech and free association just doesn't seem like that fits with those principles, but then again I'm sure Reagan actually was just as liberal and unprincipled as GW Bush, right?

I don't give a rat's @ss about abortion. While I think it's wrong, I think it will happen until people change.

As far as size of govt to GNP is concerned, that's misleading. How about percentage of income that is paid in taxes?

152 posted on 03/29/2002 5:18:47 PM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: vbmoneyspender
I have to admit I'm stumped by this chart. It is NOTHING close to what any economics or history books say about these rates. I have to think there are some things in the Congressional footnotes that are not revealed. Man, I LIVED through the 1980s and I remember the rates coming down to 25%. Reagan also said so in his book. The Heritage Foundation also said so in its various articles. Worse, I don't have any data that supports these earlier high rates either. The top rates came way down under JFK, too. So I'll have to ponder this, because it doesn't jibe with any other research I've seen---there has to be some catch in the footnotes.
153 posted on 03/29/2002 5:19:19 PM PST by LS
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To: rbmillerjr
I didn't mean to imply that you're a zealot...I was willing to cut GW all the slack he needed. When he turned his back on the Constitution, for whatever reason, he lost me.

Whether he's got some grand political strategery in mind or whatever, I don't care.

154 posted on 03/29/2002 5:21:35 PM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: TLBSHOW
"These are, it must be mentioned, impossible people who, more often than not, prefer to lose on principle than win through compromise."

Oh those pesky principles. I mean wouldn't it be so much better if no one had them. And isn't it interesting that a liberal hack is in a sense extolling a lack of virtue in people.

Don't worry though, the GOP is just about finished purging it's ranks of nasty assed, principled, impossible, conservatives. Won't it be grand when the two parties can actually merge. I mean after all if we don't have principles that separate us, life will be so idyllic.

155 posted on 03/29/2002 5:22:23 PM PST by ImpBill
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To: all
Just wanted to pop in here and leave you all with something to think about.

Look North to see what can happen when political parties no longer represent what their namesakes and philosophies intend. The conservative party here in Canada would be considered liberal in the U.S., and the Liberal party would be considered outright socialist.

Always be vigilant about not just your opposition, but also about the party you're casting a vote for. The enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend.

Note: I'm not saying this is actually what's happening with the Republican party, as I'm definately out of the loop on most of the bills and such that they pass day-to-day, but I have noticed that the RINOs have gone beyond a mere handful. They're a bloody herd.

156 posted on 03/29/2002 5:23:11 PM PST by Rightwing Canuck
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To: TLBSHOW
It is all about the election my friend that has the rats in full mode...

I expect the Rats will do any low, rotten, lying thing they can think of to gain and keep political power my friend but when the Republicans play the same games and call it smart strategy, well that just wrong. I haven't agreed with a lot of the Presidents views lately as I have already said and theres more like stem-cell research and pushing Israel around to name a few more. But I held my nose and went along for the sake of Sept 11 and the war on terror, which is now just about the only area in which I think GW is doing a good job. But when the President signed that unconstitutional bill that takes away our right to free speech then made jokes about it, that was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I am very disappointed in Mr Bush. I loved Ronnie Reagan , he was my Commander-in-Chief and a great President. I had hoped GW would be another like him but now I see it was all wishful thinking on my part.

sigh...

157 posted on 03/29/2002 5:25:56 PM PST by Walkin Man
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To: ModernDayCato
I think we are fatigued ( i know i am with a sick kid),,,,,if you reread my first post I think you'll see that I was suggesting we use Lobsterbacks on the Bushtistas if we are to be called zealots.

I too take the CFR signing as a lot more serious than other run of the mill issues, as we are talking about Free Speech and the very first Amendment in the Bill of Rights here.

and I am an active Republican soon to be Independent (yet I'll confess I'll still vote for conservative Republicans) yet not get my money or campaigning any longer........sorry for the confusion.

158 posted on 03/29/2002 5:26:51 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: ImpBill
I must have missed something with Reagan and his Iran-Contra plan. How "principled" was that, and how much in line with the Constitution? He made serious mistakes, too. But many seem to prefer to canonize him instead of seein him in objective terms. Democrats have their JFK myth, I guess conservatives must have one, too. I prefer reality.
159 posted on 03/29/2002 5:27:50 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: Common Tator
You are giving me way too much more credit than I deserve. I am not asking GWBush to radically change the course of the government. I am not asking for abolition of Dept of Education, etc. I am not asking for a flat or consumption tax, I am not asking for a challenge of Votings Rights Act. I am realistic enough to realize such radical changes cannot happen easily.

However, what I am asking for are standard Republican values in our government. We cannot drastically reduce the government, but we can do it incrementally. But, you cannot accomplish that by increasing the size of the government. The Dept of Education by itself has increased by 25%. I am not asking for an end to abortion, but at least the government stop funding abortion. I am all about incrementalism, but it has to be in the conservative direction. A huge increase in non-military govt spending will not accomplish that.

What is my point? I want him to hold the line. I know he cannot deliver anything I want, I just dont want him to make it worse. Geez....how many seats in Congress does he need for that? If he needs an absolute majority in all branches of the govt so that he can get his agenda moving, then hey, I could be the President. The kind of radical change I was talking about may need an absolute majority, but if he was a leader of any kind, he should be able to accomplish the little incremental things that I proposed. He is simply not leading the nation. 80% popularity rating is not an ornament. You use it to get your agenda moving.

Now, it is entirely possible that GWBush is a squish, and he likes to do feel-good things so that the editorial board of NYT would love him. If that is the case, I am wasting my time and my vote.

160 posted on 03/29/2002 5:28:08 PM PST by Satadru
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