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One Less Republican in Camp
Sierra Times ^ | 3-29-02 | Colonel Dan

Posted on 03/29/2002 5:48:42 AM PST by oursacredhonor

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To: Virginia-American
George Washington only vetoed bills on the grounds that they weren't Constitutional. Of course it's the President's duty

Sorry friend but you are wrong. GW used the constitution as his basis for vetoing a congressional apportionment bill that is true. however he had decided not to veto it because it would give the impression that he was siding with the southern states. It was only after Jefferson talked him into it that he vetoed the bill. His only other veto was a bill that would have disbanded a company of Light Dragoons. Washington in both cases weighed the political costs as heavily as the constitutional costs.

341 posted on 03/29/2002 2:01:55 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: oursacredhonor;sinkspur
Well stated and thoughtful. It's too bad that we're a minority, but with sinkspur as the alternative, I much prefer your company.
342 posted on 03/29/2002 2:08:51 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: oursacredhonor;sinkspur
Well stated and thoughtful. It's too bad that we're a minority, but with sinkspur as the alternative, I much prefer your company.
343 posted on 03/29/2002 2:08:56 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: AmericanInTokyo
It is news to me that Anderson was a conservative. What was his ACU rating?

As far as I know he had none just as PJB had none.

344 posted on 03/29/2002 2:09:55 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Unfortunately, John Anderson has turned down our effort to run for President in 2000.

He lately has been touring the country talking about the need for third party reform in America.

John Anderson ran for President in 1980 and received 7% of the vote.  He is a living symbol of the third party movement in America.  His experience in independent politics and his ability to reach a broad cross-section of the electorate would have made him a perfect candidate for a reform-oriented ticket.

In the meantime, please read about Proportional Representation, which Congressman Anderson is a big proponent of....

Click to learn about the next big electoral reform in America!

345 posted on 03/29/2002 2:12:16 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: sheltonmac
I find it hard to believe that when enough Republicans are elected the GOP leadership will say, "Okay, that's enough liberal pandering. We have enough votes now to push through our real conservative agenda. Let's roll!"

Of course not. They'll say, "We have to pander to the liberals so we can get reelected, or we soon won't have the filibuster-proof majority. Then where will conservatives be?" And people like the ones on this board will go right along.

346 posted on 03/29/2002 2:12:19 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: The Irishman
Actually, I don't think you asked the question you wanted to ask. I think you wanted to ask: "Is Bush moving the country to the right or is he slowing leftward advancement?" The answer to that is probably the latter.

If you are asking "Is Bush moving the electorate to the right or is he slowing leftward advancement?" then the answer is undoubtedly the former. You must understand that around 50% of the people who vote are willing to vote for Al Gore. Al Gore has no charisma, flunked out/dropped out of two graduate programs and has rode on the coattails of others all his life.

And yet people were willing to vote for him. This is a problem. Hearts and minds must be changed and people must be willing to be conservatives by default and be naturally suspicious of anything leftward-seeming.

347 posted on 03/29/2002 2:12:55 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmericanInTokyo
It is news to me that Anderson was a conservative. What was his ACU rating?

Uh he wasn't. Mr. Anderson was a typical RINO, but that didn't stop him from trying to divide the Republican base.

But in 1980 the country was in such a screwed up state from Carter that voters flocked to Ronald Reagan.

Looks like you all(the 110% principle) "Republicans"(i.e constant naysayers) are willing to take a page out of John Anderson's book for "principle" and undo all the good done by Reagan(it was his policies that created and carried the economic boom of the 90's, even with Clinton's hinderances) and reinstate another LBJ.

348 posted on 03/29/2002 2:14:07 PM PST by Dane
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To: tpaine
Oh, it only seems like I advocate state control because I think you ought to be locked in a rubber room with your sleeves tied behind your back.
349 posted on 03/29/2002 2:15:08 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: hchutch
Nope, they can't. CFR was their baby.

You mean like his father's tax cut that was pushed through by the DEMS? For all the talk about meeting liberals on their own turf, it appears you're forgetting that liberals will simply make things up if it serves their agenda. Just because CFR was originally their cause doesn't mean a thing - they'll conveniently forget to mention it when they remind everyone that Bush broke his campaign promise.

350 posted on 03/29/2002 2:16:05 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: AmishDude
Why aren't they doing something the party will actually notice and that will effect the direction of a candidate -- withholding money?

As a former GOP donor, I really enjoy sending back those money raising pseudo polls with comments that I know will be disregarded, but I enjoy doing it, as do those who freep Condit.

351 posted on 03/29/2002 2:18:54 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: oursacredhonor
I agree with you. You've named Bush's good qualities and then articulated many of the same problems I have with the Bush administration.
352 posted on 03/29/2002 2:25:42 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: oursacredhonor
Part of the problem unfortunately is the American people. This indifference and ignorance of the Constitution is going to be our downfall if we don't fix it and fix it fast.

I agree. Here are a couple of more observations on this topic:

“If a Nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed.”
-- Thomas Jefferson

“If once they ["our people"] become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. “
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter from Paris, 1787

“What luck for rulers, that men do not think.”
-- Adolph Hitler

A Republic....if you can keep it.

J.R.

353 posted on 03/29/2002 2:26:36 PM PST by NMC EXP
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To: Skooz
Rank and file Republicans have been irrelevant since the 104th Congress forgot it was the majority in 1995. Since then, the GOP has caved, made concessions, compromised, read the polls, failed to fight back and counter ridiculous assertions by the Dims, lost seats in every election, lost control of the Senate, and is nine votes away from losing it's hold on the House. I just wonder why it took Colonel Dan so long to leave the party...I left in 1996. When the party re-discovers it's conservative principles and it's, uh, testicular fortitude, I'll consider coming back.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

354 posted on 03/29/2002 2:29:20 PM PST by wku man
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To: SentryoverAmerica
Re: #225, I love that list :-)
355 posted on 03/29/2002 3:29:03 PM PST by Darth Sidious
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To: Miss Marple
Thank you. It is true, every bit of it. If you want to continue wallowing in the mud of materialism and petty bickering, you're more than welcome to it. But some of us at least have the sense to steer clear of it. At least we're doing everyone the favor of trying to show them something better.

Now don't bother to respond: in typical Miss Marple fashion you'll announce to us all that you've got to go to dinner. So proceed to eat your hor'derves and whine to the "uncool AdMod" as is your fashion.

356 posted on 03/29/2002 3:32:40 PM PST by Darth Sidious
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To: RnMomof7
Nope my Hope is in the cross..but we are to render to Cesear what is Cesear's.....government is our business too

As another writer pointed out a few weeks ago:

"Caesar is dead. Don't pay the man."

357 posted on 03/29/2002 3:34:42 PM PST by Darth Sidious
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To: sinkspur
Colonel, Goodbye and Good Riddance!!!!!
358 posted on 03/29/2002 3:40:58 PM PST by Deltaforceeoo7
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To: sinkspur
Colonel, Goodbye and Good Riddance!!!!!
359 posted on 03/29/2002 3:41:03 PM PST by Deltaforceeoo7
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To: wku man
What have you accomplished since 1996 when you left?
360 posted on 03/29/2002 3:41:56 PM PST by marajade
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