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Israeli police storm Al-Aqsa sanctuary!
Ananova ^ | 3/29/02 | Unknown

Posted on 03/29/2002 2:24:31 AM PST by Gemflint

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To: straight1
I am a Catholic New Yorker...I went to Mass yesterday (Holy Thursday) to celebrate the Last Supper (the last Passover meal celebrated by Jesus before his execution) and to pray for our allies in Israel...the Eucharist, the center of our religious faith, is unleavened bread like the Jewish matzoh...we are one people in our idea of a loving Creator and a Messiah sent to redeem us...one good thing that has come out of all the chaos in America since 9/11 is a national awareness of what the Israelis have had to live with for years...namely the hatred of Muslim fanatics and the duplicity of the Arab world...you are not alone in this battle...may God bless both of our countries, our leaders, and our people.
221 posted on 03/29/2002 1:57:02 PM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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To: sheik yerbouty
I think the man of sin is the anti-Christ and that would not be Clinton as yet. These things we see, like Clinton's attempt to be the one with the answers are examples, like Hitler was given to us as an example of what the man of sin will be like. He will be a self centered flatterer, he will sway people by flatteries and talk of world peace. Underneath he is the beast with the cold analytical brutality of Hitler, given to hot rages, and Clinton certainly possesses those traits. However, his covenant was not accepted by all parties, the covenant the anti-Christ offers will be accepted by all of the parties.

The question that I can't find an answer to is are we the Great Whore recorded in Revelation, the one that has fallen from her position with God? She rides a beast, the US rides and attempts to control the U.N., the beast will hate her and destroy her in one hours time, the U.N. is full of our enemies, and it seems to be the anti-Christ that covertly plans her destruction with three men, perhaps in the U.N. who have recieved no kingdom, but will be given one by the anti-Christ.

It would be easy to believe that Ben Laden might go to Iran/Iraq/ N. Korea, and make such plans, or use people in the shadows, such as members of the Russian mafia that are seeking power, and make promises to them if they give him control of their nations nuclear power for one hour in order to accomplish his goal of our destruction. Perhaps Ben Laden is an example also.

I find it all interesting, and I think God intends for us to study and watch for the return of Jesus, I don't think it's anything to dwell on in fear though.

222 posted on 03/29/2002 2:04:58 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Ohioan
Few, if any, theologians will be in heaven. They are only hired shills, shouting down those they are hired to shout down, advocating the positions they are hired to advocate.

Not a one of them would be free to take my position, even if he felt it justified, because he would lose his cushy job and perks.

If you could show me one of them that AGREED with me, I might reconsider that point, to see if I needed to CHANGE!

LOL. LMAO. Praise God, and pass the ammunition. Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war.

223 posted on 03/29/2002 2:19:30 PM PST by crystalk
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To: ksen
Israeli police storm Al-Aqsa sanctuary!

They where assisted by the Australian Army (by supplying two bulldozers).The OZ army led the charge and bulldozed the perimeter fences to allow the Israeli police to enter.

224 posted on 03/29/2002 2:35:40 PM PST by cavador
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To: Sunshine Patriot
Ending statements in prepositions in something up which with we shall not put.

I think that if you go around correcting people for their grammar things will go very, VERY hard for you around here. Most people despise having their spelling or punctuation corrected, no matter how egregious they may be. I have to tell you that there are some rather thuggish types who delight in following people who are excessively picky about these things around from thread to thread, much as you have followed me.

I do not associate with them much, because I sometimes correct very bad spelling, or at least inquire as to confusing meanings. In addition, as you know, I sometimes point out the requirements which the owner of the forum has imposed on his guests, such as you and I. I wish you good luck, should you persevere in this desire to act as the forum grammarian, because you will need it.

225 posted on 03/29/2002 2:43:00 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: cavador
Sorry-I made the mistake of posting to the wrong section.

What I was refering to was the fact that Israeli police have surrounded Arafat's Headquarters at Ramallah

226 posted on 03/29/2002 2:47:29 PM PST by cavador
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To: Michael2001;American in Israel
As far as I know American in Israel isn't Jewish.

I guess you have read this by now, but my confusion on this matter has been cleared up, but we are now worried, because that was the reason we thought that American in Israel has not posted since early Wednesday morning (at least not at the time of the postings you noted). Since that is not true we are concerned about him.

228 posted on 03/29/2002 2:51:16 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Sunshine Patriot
OK, that is fair, I have been awake for a long time now, let me see what I was trying to convey. 'As a newbie you may not know that it is against the forum rules to traipse around from thread to thread making posts which do not follow from a source on the thread that you are posting to.' You are a relatively recent member of FR, and it is possible that you do not know all of the generally accepted rules of the forum, many of which are required by the owner of the forum.

One of these rules is that you are not supposed to take an argument you have been having with another freeper on one thread, and start arguing about it on another thread, especially if these threads are contemporaneous. This is for two reasons, one is that everyone else on the thread will have no chance to know what you are talking about, and the other is to reduce rancor.

I see that the next part of my note is a little(?) confusing, but I was referring to the fact that your first post to me here made a reference to our discussion on the other thread, which would not be readily understandable to other Freepers. Yes, you identified my member since date, but since it is a middling membership length, there would be no point to this, unless someone knew about our discussion on the other thread.

229 posted on 03/29/2002 3:07:22 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Tom Thomson
Mike, with all due respect, I totally disagree that this teaching is minor... This IS a life or death situation.
Tom, take a deep breath. Let me ask you this: what saves you, your belief in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour or your belief in a pre-trib rapture? If you answered the first, you're correct. If you had to think a minute, then your priorities are way out of line.

In the scheme of things, the pre-trib versus post-trib versus mid-trib rapture issue is nothing more than a minor, friendly, family debate. In days like this, the issue shouldn't even be on your radar screen. And you certainly shouldn't be discussing it in front of non-Christians.

we are at the door of the tribulation period
Sorry, but you don't know that. It could start tomorrow or it could be another 2,000 years or perhaps more. Remember how the Apostle Paul spoke out against those who quit work in anticipation of the coming rapture? I hope that Jesus returns in my lifetime, and I think that He probably will, but I'm not cashing in my 401(k) and I didn't quit my job this afternoon.
Scripture does not support a pre-tribulation-rapture one iota.
I'm thinking that you made a little typo here! Whatever you mean, there are a lot of good, conservative Christian scholars who disagree with you. Would you like to show me all the passages in the Bible that refer to the rapture? Fine. That should be quick reading.

For what it's worth, I lean towards a belief in a pre-trib rapture, but even more, I believe that "the main things are the plain things and the plain things are the main things" when it comes to the Bible. The Bible speaks so little of the rapture and, when it does, it really isn't very clear, no matter what you say. If it were that important of an issue, the apostles would have been preaching it every chance that they got. They weren't too concerned with it, so we shouldn't be either.

A million years from now, it won't matter whether you believed in a pre-trib rapture while here on earth.


230 posted on 03/29/2002 3:45:58 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I posted my comment before I had seen the entire thread. Later I did see that someone said exactly what I did. I do not know about AmericanInIsrael, seeing as this is Passover he probably has vacation over there. I hope everything is all right, all we can do is pray.
231 posted on 03/29/2002 3:52:25 PM PST by Michael2001
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To: El Gato
Why isn't this headline, "Palistinians attack Jewish Worshipers at Wailing Wall, Police Respond." ?

New Zealand National radio announced the events in Israel like this: "Israeli army attacked Y Arafat's compound just one day after the Arabs offered the Jewish state a comprehensive and widely supported peace plan"...

Anything about suicide bombing on the first day of Passover? Nope...

And just in the moment when I'm writing this a group of pinky faggy Commie-like students of Victoria University in Wellington is gathering signatures for the raghead murderers against Israel.

Soviet Socialist Monarchy of New Zealand, led by an uggly lezza for a prime minister, is of no different way of thinking then the radical campus alumni who had cooked the headline you distaste.

232 posted on 03/29/2002 3:54:59 PM PST by Neophyte
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To: cavador
They where assisted by the Australian Army (by supplying two bulldozers).The OZ army led the charge and bulldozed the perimeter fences to allow the Israeli police to enter.

I've always been rather partial to the Aussies. Maybe when they are done here they can send Steve Irwin over to Arafat's compound so he can jump on him and move him to a new habitat. DANGER! DANGER! DANGER! ;^)

-ksen

233 posted on 03/29/2002 4:08:41 PM PST by ksen
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To: all
I'm thinking it's REALLY time to get our spiritual houses in order....ASAP.
234 posted on 03/29/2002 4:14:31 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Michael2001
I hope everything is all right, all we can do is pray.

Amen to that. Do we know that American in Israel uses his office computer and does not have access to a home computer? That certainly would explain his absence, so I am determined to accept that this is the case.

235 posted on 03/29/2002 4:15:03 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: AIBC
The whole WORLD knows that the Israelis have promised the US to keep him alive and this is exactly what they have been doing.

The whole world...except Jesse Jackson.

237 posted on 03/29/2002 6:20:22 PM PST by copycat
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To: Freetus
I wasn't trying to set Christian against Jew; I was merely pointing out that there are many reasons for Christians to see the Muslims as their brothers and not their enemy.

I can give you two million reasons that Christians dislike Moslems in Sudan alone. Brothers do not kill brothers and rape their wives if they refuse to "convert" to Islam.

238 posted on 03/30/2002 8:12:13 AM PST by American in Israel
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