[Grampa Dave]

This other thread that you posted about the so called Mexican Spotted Owl observer being charged for arson really begs that all past so called reports on any so called endangered species be looked at for fraud, lies and irresponsible reporting by surveyors. ( Paul James Valdez, 27, of Tularosa, who worked for the tribe helping take the census of federally protected Mexican spotted owls, was arrested Wednesday on charges of setting the half-acre Lower Cooley Fire on June 2.)

[KC Burke]

The setting of fires by these people is very much the trend in AZ. They do it to houses, new buildings and whole developments.

It is amazing that in all the fires, three of the four where I have heard they caught someone responsible have been federal/envirnmentalist workers. Three of four....simply disgusting.

[madfly]

Yes, that's why I posted it. Hopefully there will be an investigation and a HALT/MORATORIUM on all actions/lawsuits based on the credibility of the numbers being submitted by Environmental Orgz.

Sending lots of stuff to Sen. Jon Kyl and Rep. Jeff Flake. Would like to see a group of these census takers on a John Stossel special!