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DAVID WESTERFIELD TO FACE JUDGE AGAIN: Van Dam Murder Update 2:00 P.M. Pacific Time
KFMB-CBS ^ | March 28, 2002 | KFMB-CBS

Posted on 03/28/2002 7:54:29 AM PST by FresnoDA

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Pedophiles and Child Molesters: The Slaughter of Innocence

Pedophiles

Many of these offenders have extensive collections of child pornography or child erotica that feed their fantasy world. These photos and drawings will typically be cut outs from newspapers and magazines that other people would find inoffensive or even innocuous. Pedophiles will frequently videotape children from television shows and commercials. They will also attend sporting events in schools and surreptitiously tape these events. Undoubtedly, the notorious video clip of JonBenet Ramsey participating at a Colorado beauty pageant has found its way into the video libraries of pedophiles across the country.

These collections of pornography are often considered the pedophile’s most valued possession (Lanning, p. 28). The collection represents years of work and symbolizes, in tangible form, his inner most sexual fantasies and thoughts. The collection will consist of slides, commercial photos, souvenirs, toys, Polaroids and virtually any other type of material that relates to or displays any minute reference to child sex. Child erotica collections will vary in quality and quantity, often depending upon the economic status of the collector. Police have found that the older the pedophile, the more extensive the collection will be. Since true child pornography requires a clandestine effort to obtain, the majority of these collections will be erotic in nature as opposed to pornographic. And often the focus will be upon one or two aspects of sexuality. Preferential child molesters especially, preserve these types of collections and will do anything to safeguard them. Offenders have been known to make formal requests to the police agencies to return these items after their case has been adjudicated.

The pedophile collector falls into three general categories: closet, isolated and the sharer. The closet collector maintains and views his erotica in secret and does not molest children. This type of collector builds his collection in a clandestine manner and keeps its existence a secret. Sometimes, he will maintain this collection for years without the knowledge of a live in spouse. The isolated collector is actually engaged in molestation and will display the material to a victim. The sharer-collector trades and displays the material with others and may do so for profit. He also will molest children and keeps company with other pedophiles. Since other criminals, like burglars, muggers, car thieves, rarely collect artifacts relating to their criminality, why do pedophiles collect? The answer to that question lies in the psychological characteristics of his condition. He has a twisted sexual compulsion for children whose origins are separate and apart from criminality. His deviance is defined as criminal only because society has deemed it so. Some pedophiles believe that they have done nothing wrong and are simply more enlightened than the general public. They feel they are part of a special progressive movement and one day society will come to accept, what they see as, their sacred ritual of adult/child sex.

From a practical standpoint, collections serve crucial needs for the pedophile. First, child erotica and pornography are utilized in his crimes. The pedophile will display this material to a victim in order to lower his inhibitions and introduce him to the possibilities of sex with an adult. This is a very important step in the seduction process. Secondly, the pedophile will use the material for his own sexual gratification. Often it is used in the arousal phase prior to sexual activity with victims. Still others will use photographs of the abuse to blackmail their victims into further sexual activity. After engaging in sexual acts with an adult, a complex set of emotions engulfs the victim. These emotions include humiliation, attachment to the offender and fear of exposure. The victim becomes extremely fearful that his friends and family will learn of the sexual activity and he will suffer harsh consequences. Pedophiles are familiar with these feelings and will use those emotions against the child. Pornography plays a pivotal role in the child sex offender’s life. But most importantly, it is the tool of his trade used to induct his victims into his sexual fantasies. This is why law enforcement is always on the alert to the onslaught of pornography on the web. [1] Authors Best and Luckenbill discuss the characteristics of loners, colleagues and peer deviants in Organizing Deviance (1992). [2] Reported by CNN January 28, 1997.


A lot has been made that the pornography didn't amount to much. But this article points out that a large portion of a pedophiles collection will not be necessarily illegal images. Were the non-pornographic images described at the PH?
21 posted on 03/28/2002 8:46:53 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1, Mrs.Liberty, Fresnoda
LOL~ Ya'll crack me up...! I love smiling ;-)
22 posted on 03/28/2002 8:48:20 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Westerfield was known to leave his motorhome unlocked. It's possible, whether he did the awful deed or not, that the prints may have come from Danielle playing in it.
23 posted on 03/28/2002 8:48:33 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: Semper
Well...to each his own. I see today you have posted on a thread related to the final four. I guess, if one were not interested in the FF, one could ask you the same question. WHy, with more important things going on in the world, should anyone care about who plays in or wins the NCAA tournament? Because it's a free country?

Again, to each his own.

24 posted on 03/28/2002 8:49:08 AM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Valpal1
Do you have all the ping list that I use, or should I do the ones I don't see?
25 posted on 03/28/2002 8:49:40 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: fivecatsandadog
I read it as saying that Westerfield could "plea bargain" and they would accept it, BECAUSE the prosecution might not have an air-tight case against him...and Feldman will make sure they don't.

ONLY if the DA has an open and shut, 100% positive proof he did it, beyond a reasonable doubt, would they NOT accept the plea bargain. FAT CHANCE, IMHO.

In Arkansas, if you plead "Guilty" and spare the State a trial, you cannot be given the death penalty. BUT, if you say "Not Guilty" and are found guilty of "murder", then you can receive the death sentence.

If Westerfield cops a plea, then I will KNOW he did it.

sw

26 posted on 03/28/2002 8:53:36 AM PST by spectre
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To: spectre
See you all back here around 2pm

Rats, that's 5:00pm for me and I'll be heading home for the weekend. Guess I'll have to check in later.

27 posted on 03/28/2002 8:54:33 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I don't have your full ping list, I just pulled a piece of one off a previous thread. Ping away!
28 posted on 03/28/2002 8:57:39 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: FresnoDA
Any of the "net detectives" here watch the court tv trial of the Allergist how was convicted of beating his wife to death and had porn on his computer etc? Seems he made a lot of mistakes in his crime. What ever happened to divorce when you want to leave a marriage? Why kill your wife, the mother of your children? What is going on in the world and what are these people thinking? I am bewildered.
29 posted on 03/28/2002 8:59:05 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Howlin, Mrs.Liberty, rolling_stone, wirestripper, UCANSEE2, Jhoffa_, Valpal1, GummyIII,
Some of ya got pinged twice.. :D Sorry!
30 posted on 03/28/2002 9:00:43 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: fivecatsandadog
"I read it as saying that Westerfield could "plea bargain" and they would accept it, BECAUSE the prosecution might not have an air-tight case against him...and Feldman will make sure they don't."

That's what I hoped it meant. When Nimmo said that state's evidence is "pretty powerful", and then kinda contradicted himself when he made the statement about the possible plea bargain, I couldn't figure out which way it was going.

31 posted on 03/28/2002 9:01:06 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: Slyfox
Known by whom? Just cause his lawyer said it does not mean it is either true or that anyone knew of it.

That sounds like a lawyerly lie and I doubt that the camper was left open unless he was around it.

32 posted on 03/28/2002 9:03:12 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: spectre
You are right. Remember, there were two boys in their bedrooms. How did the perp know they were sleeping and would not detect him? And then, we have the good for nothing watch-dog...hummmm?

And remember, we now know that the good for nothing watch dog was locked in the bedrooms at night. At one time he was locked in the master bedroom and ripped his bed to shreds, (hmmm, could he have been going mad because Danielle was being _________ ???) And then later he was locked in one of the the boys room.

Perspectives change when we know more details.

33 posted on 03/28/2002 9:05:19 AM PST by It's me
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To: fivecatsandadog;ALL
So what would the "plea bargain" amount too? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that would mean Westerfield would have to admitt to killing Danielle, wouldn't it? Duhhhh???

sw

34 posted on 03/28/2002 9:05:57 AM PST by spectre
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To: It's me
I think the "dog tearing it's bed to shreds" is indicative of the dog being frustrated....VERY frustrated.

sw

35 posted on 03/28/2002 9:09:16 AM PST by spectre
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The fact that he regulary left his motorhome unlocked is not a lawyerly lie because it did not come from his defense attorney. It came from neighbors who knew it. People who own RV's and live in relatively safe areas sometimes don't lock them.
36 posted on 03/28/2002 9:12:01 AM PST by Slyfox
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"The way I read the state's evidence, it's very powerful. And rarely do they bargain unless they have problems with their evidence. If they had some problems with their evidence, like there was a faulty DNA test, or if one of the witnesses had actually more contact with Westerfield... watering down the presence of the DNA... and that brought a fear in the prosecution that they could lose this case, then they might try to plea bargain," explained Nimmo.

To plea or not to plea? And thereby settle old and raise new doubts on FR. This is the question all mortal posters want to know.

My read is if the state offers a plea, they have evidentiary problems. But if DW asks for a plea that is refused by the prosecutors, then they are very sure of their evidence and plan to hang him with it.

But what if no one offers or asks for a plea, AND the DA doesn't ask for the death penalty. What does that portend?

37 posted on 03/28/2002 9:12:14 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: justshutupandtakeit
This could not have come from the lawyer, unless he wants to get in trouble with the judge. There's a gag order on this case. This information is coming from neighbors, mostly.
38 posted on 03/28/2002 9:12:40 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: spectre
Yep, it would seem to be an admission of guilt. BUT, if evidence is not in his favor, and it's looking like the jury will convict, then I think saving his neck would be more important - haven't there been cases where the accused is innocent, the evidence is shaky, yet the jury convicts anyway? If he is guilty, then that's different.
39 posted on 03/28/2002 9:13:29 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: Valpal1
"What does that portend"...

It means we've got one heck of a Poker game coming up.

sw

40 posted on 03/28/2002 9:14:48 AM PST by spectre
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