Posted on 03/28/2002 6:56:19 AM PST by RCW2001
Bla, bla, bla? So we should reward terrorism?
Philosophy is not your strong suit. Try burger flipping.
The Palestinians have no desire to be in the State of Israel. Don't you know that ?
You and I can argue, trying to reason each other, we can find a compromise or we can agree to disagree - peacefully. No such thing with Palestinians. Sorry, another way of thinking. All our western highbrow attempts for peace are signs of weakness for them. The whole Palestinian refugee problem was created from the beginning to be a knife in the back of Israel. We can sympathize with their sorry life, but they were purposely left as pawns to sacrifice in Arab/Muslim war against infidels/Jews. For them, all people coming up with different compromise solutions are no more than “useful idiots” [not intended by me to be a personal attack against you :-)].
We can hardly comprehend lobotomy-robotizing of Palestinian kids into suicide bombers. They were intentionally programmed that way. I am horrified for them. That is a crime against humanity as it is. I can not relate at all to a mother blessing a son for a suicide mission, no more than I can’t fathom any compassion to Andrea Yates.
We project on them OUR desire for peace. THEY don’t want peace. They want victory. Even if some of us don’t see them as our enemy, they do. It makes no difference what we say. Our argument is irrelevant. There is no difference in their eyes between me, you or anybody here on this forum with 180° opposite views. All Israeli, Americans are their enemies. They do call, prey, and plan for our distraction. We need the complete military victory and “de-nazification” before we can hope for them to understand a concept of peace the way we understand it.
Never! Never! Never! Given the chance to vote the only thing the 'palestinians' would vote for is the destruction of Isreal. This is abundantly clear from their history, their actions and their words, propaganda fed to the west aside.
And please don't lay that democracy crap on the U.S. either. The U.S. is a Republic. A representative democratic Republic, not a democracy.
Didn' you see that I endorsed Publius 6961's Plan ?
There is NOTHING Israel can do or say that will stop the Murderous Minions of Mad Mo. Giving back land won't stop them. An independent Palestinean state won't stop them. Cease fires won't stop them. These lunatics will not stop as long as there is a Jew east of the Mediterrean Sea. Therefore, the only thing that can be done is kill as many of them as is necessary to put a stop to the suicide bombers. Just because they want to die does not mean it is not good to kill them.
Your earlier post showed either a lack of awareness (trying to blame the latest wave of terror on Sharon and arguing that Barak would do better) or a willingness to lie.
Amen to that. All these 'palestinians' came from those Arab states either to escape brutalization from their Arab bretheren or leech off of Isreals success. Why can't those Arab states do something to help them? Two simple reasons. One; they don't want them. Two; they do want to use them as their frontline in their goal to destroy Isreal. Which shows that the major Arab states have no compassion for the suffering of 'their own' and lack the courage and honor to fight their own fights. That's about as despicable as it gets.
Making deals with thugs and savages is ridiculous. By definition they will agree to anything that gives them an advantage and break every agreement when it suits them. If compassion for the 'palestinians' were the only issue then how is it compassionate to reward a thug or a criminal for his behavior? If you reward evil you encourage it. Is it compassionate to encourage someone to be evil for your own temporary gains?
Of course, he has no clue about that of which he speaks and it becomes more clear with each statement.
As I have written before on other threads, if you assume the very worst about your enemy and discount any chance of reasoning with them you will get precisely that. If the Palestinians as a people are as subhuman as you insist, then they will continue fighting you until you have exterminated them. All of them
I don’t think they are genetically any different from me or you. I don’t call them subhuman. I call inhumane: their conditioning in hate and making suicide bombers out of them; and sacrificing them (by their Arab brothers) to war against Israel.
they will continue fighting you until you have exterminated them
Germans and Japanese don’t fight us now, don’t they? What’s different? De-nazification and Marshall plan. Let’s do it again.
if you assume the very worst about your enemy and discount any chance of reasoning with them you will get precisely that
Israel has shown willingness to negotiate on many levels. Israel has full spectrum of political parties from far right to far left, including Arabs elected to Knesset and communists. Israeli media is very critical (from the left, mostly) of their government. From different points of view they are trying to reason with Palestinians. What is the answer? More bloodshed. Where is the best of this enemy?
Israel does not have the depravity or practical ability to carry out the type of mass murder and ethnic cleansing that would be necessary to eliminate 3 million Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza. They can't do it.
I don’t advocate murder or elimination. I advocate military victory and destroying of Palestinian Authority. Ethnic cleansing is dirty word, but population exchange/transfer did happen in the 20 century many times and was called a success. I agree that this is a contradiction: not to annex the West Bank for fear of a demographic bomb and not to continue exert power over it as is. I would prefer to streamline a border with Jordan, remove some settlements, give Jordan back a negotiated part of the West Bank with all Palestinians, and help them economically to deal with it. Gaza can go back to Egypt. Jerusalem remains Israeli.
Do you genuinely want peace for your friends in Israel? Or would "victory" satisfy you?
Yes on both counts. Victory first, peace next. Otherwise, it does not matter if I or Israeli want peace, Palestinians don’t want it. They demonstrated it loud and clear to anybody who wants to see it.
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