[patriciaruth]

This man fought hard for the country without flinching during the post-election fight. He got rid of Clinton/Gore. I owe him a debt I can't repay. So in gratitude, I'll cover his back. Yes, he has my undying loyalty.

Do I value the Constitution? Enough to have joined the NRA and visited the Ranch during the post-election fight. But I also value loyalty to people who have saved your butt. And I don't see these things as incompatible.

[Twodees]

Did you actually witness the post election fight? The way you're talking, you sound as though you slept through it and were filled in by one of his fans. Bush hid on his ranch and did diddly to fight for anything. The rank and file republicans and a lot of unaffiliated people carried the fight on out in the streets and at the precincts.

Lawyers carried the cases to court, but the fight was on the ground in Florida and DC. Without that fight going on, the news media could have and would have reported on a few weak little protests by Bush's campaign people and a few court challenges and then Gore would have been inaugurated.

W has never fought for anything and has never worked a day in his life. It's ridiculous to talk about any politician fighting or working. They never do either. They hire snake oil salesmen to convince us to fight and to encourage us to work.

Bush didn't save your butt. You saved his. He owes you his loyalty, but don't hold your breath waiting for him to deliver.