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JOINING THE RUSH-LED CHORUS ON DUB (Normal People Prefer Bush. He has gravitas)
rushlimbaugh ^ | 3/26/2002 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 03/26/2002 3:28:09 PM PST by TLBSHOW

JOINING THE RUSH-LED CHORUS ON DUB

I'm reading a Time magazine Reporters' Notebook column and I tell you, I could have written this piece. Is this not amazing? The Boston Globe also has a column on Bush going along with so much of the Democrat agenda, suggesting it's for 2004, not 2002 as is the conventional wisdom. George Will has a column on this same topic, asking why Bush is giving in. Bill Bennett and Charles Krauthammer are also going the same way.

So I think some of you who have been telling me to shut up about my criticism of Bush have a lot of other people to write and tell to shut up. You might want to call or write and ask them to be quiet, because there seems to be a growing chorus of criticism. Yeah, I know, I started it. Is that right? Oh, I'm the one that paved the way? Yeah, yeah, it's my fault. I gave everybody the "go" sign. I made it okay for everybody to ask why the president has stopped pushing his agenda during the war, when, say, FDR pushed the New Deal through during WWII.

It's always going to fall back to me. I'm going to be the one responsible for it all happening since I'm the point man. I led off. But is Time magazine taking cues from me? I mean, they've written the same story that I've been doing since the stimulus package days, and it's quite illustrative of things. There are quite a few of these stories out there that are examining the political strategery of the Bush White House on the domestic agenda side versus the war side, and examining how they're doing and what they're doing and what it's all aimed at.

I just want to prepare you for it, because I know a lot of you think that there's been too much criticism here. We even read that the Democrats are emboldened, and will ask for even more money to buy votes. They know the president won't spend his political capital! This is frustrating, because you hear people saying Bush can do no wrong, so he should do what's right!

I know Bush is trying to get a workable majority in Congress, but this acting defensively to take issues away from the Democrats is not the way to do it. Even those "normal people" on the Jerry Springer Show, an e-mailer tells me, cheer Bush during the show. That's probably scripted, but there it is. They know it!

In fact, we could even make a slogan: Normal People Prefer Bush. He has gravitas, folks! He is adored and loved and can both fight the war and push a domestic agenda at the same time. There's no reason not to do that when he has all this backing him up.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; rush
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To: TLBSHOW
The question was whether Bush's veto would extend beyond his term. Which would imply that he would have a strategy concerning the veto buried within the mountains of federal law.

If his veto dies with his term than he would be better served in the public domain to sign and let someone raise an objection to the court. If his veto extends beyond his term (which I think it does) then the bill would be sent back and congress would have to gather the necessary votes to overide, which they could.

It boils down to a question of whether he stands on principle or politics. I think it's fair to assume he wants to be re-elected and he is weighing the cost of losing a small percentage of his base to not vetoing v. vetoing.

He will sign and get re-elected. Get it?

You do realize that most of the country won't care about this issue until they are told to by the media.

161 posted on 03/26/2002 9:48:53 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Texasforever
I'll see if I can find it in Black's online. Do you have any reference to the section?
162 posted on 03/26/2002 9:50:52 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
Look at VETO and VETO POWER
163 posted on 03/26/2002 9:59:20 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
I will. Goodnight.
164 posted on 03/26/2002 10:05:54 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
Of course we will win and win big this year. Once the American People know what the democrat rats did. How many of them voted for this Bill?
165 posted on 03/26/2002 10:18:15 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Go get 'em coach. Goodnight.
166 posted on 03/26/2002 10:20:32 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness;Jim Robinson;howlin;Miss Marple;Rush Limbaugh
Can you believe it? Almost all the democrats voted to take Free Speech away from the American people during an election and tried to do this while a war was going on? A war that is on our soil, having been attacked here in New York and in DC during the attack on America on September 11th.

This is un-heard of in American History. When the people hear this, what will they say?

You see they can grasp the words Free and speech. CFR no, but you tell them the democrats attempted to take away Free Speech. What do you think will happen to the democrats. They will be spit on as traitors.

You put it in a simple term like

Free Speech

The American people will not only praise the President and despise the democrats. They will see to it the democrats are destroyed and defeated in November.

Which ever way this goes, if the President thinks a veto is good or sends it to the court to finish it off. Does not matter as long as he stands up for the principal of Free Speech. Tells the American people just what the democrats tried to do and why he is going to stop it by which ever means he decides is best. The democrats can not stand up against a Patriotic people and take Free Speech away during a time of war to save this country from people that want to kill us. Without paying a price which is to be sent so far back that they will think they were just trying to start their party.

167 posted on 03/26/2002 11:01:31 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Pokey78
I'm with you Pokey, great post.
168 posted on 03/26/2002 11:11:22 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Texasforever
If Bush vetoes CFR, it will come back during a Democrat White House, and it will pass. If Bush signs it now, and SCOTUS declares it unconstitutional it will most likely go away for a long time, at least in its present form, and will take tons of steam from McCain's next run at the presidency.

So, for the next presidential elections we could score like this:

Bush veto=Advantage McCain
SCOTUS overturns=Advantage Bush

169 posted on 03/26/2002 11:16:09 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You nailed it.
170 posted on 03/26/2002 11:17:32 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
I mean, can you just hear McCain campaining after a Bush veto?

Taking the high-ground and claiming that Bush is against reform?

Once SCOTUS throws the law out, what's McCain gonna do?

171 posted on 03/26/2002 11:23:11 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Democrats will not take the American People's Free Speech

You nailed it as always!

172 posted on 03/26/2002 11:27:49 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Miss Marple
What if the war on terror is bigger than we thought?

If it were, the first thing this president would do is SEAL THE BORDERS. Do you see that happening?

173 posted on 03/27/2002 1:30:59 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
You cannot "seal" a 1933-mile border with Mexico. You can increase border patrol agents, ask Mexico to increase security, and send in the national guard to help. These things have been done.

How are you going to "seal" the Canadian border across the Border Waters Wilderness or Glacier/Waterton National Parks? You would have to draft about a million people to "seal" that.

Then there are the coastlines. Heck, we can't even keep all of Florida immune from drug smugglers...how are you going to guarantee a terrorist won't slip in through the Everglades?

We could close the borders, of course. That would strike a devastating blow to the Canadian and Mexican economies, which would boomerang to us. I am certain that if we stopped Canadian people from crossing, then they would stop us from entering their country. Trade would stop, and Canada is one of our biggest partners. (Don't forget, most of the terrorists entered through CANADA, not Mexico.)And terrorists would still sneak through in unguarded areas.

174 posted on 03/27/2002 2:35:27 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: OldFriend
Some folks just can't understand that the man is President of the whole country and has the future of the whole world on his shoulders right now.

Oh, yes, now I get it. Like my first wife, those who disagree with you just can't "understand". Well, most of us not only can, but do, understand--and agree with your premise while disagreeing with your conclusion. He IS President of the entire country and the world's future is, in large part, on his shoulders. That's why we're worried--because we DO understand.

A hint: the way to assuage our worries is to point out some counter evidence to those points made that criticize him, rather than condescending to his critics.

175 posted on 03/27/2002 3:05:27 AM PST by jammer
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To: Miss Marple
So let's just hurl the US Constitution over the side each and every time some "threat" looms on the horizon (as the Pubbie worshipped Lincoln did during the War of Northern Aggression?)

"Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." (William Pitt, 1759-1806)

176 posted on 03/27/2002 4:38:40 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Miss Marple
BUMP
177 posted on 03/27/2002 8:28:54 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: BluesDuke
I, for one, do not buy it that it is neither Congress's nor the President's responsibility to know whether or not legislation is constitutional

Ah, I see, so you don't buy that whole "seperation of powers" thing that our forefathers meticulously wrote into the Constitution to make sure the legislative branch legislates, the executive branch executes, and the judicial branch determines the constitutionality of the laws? What a shame you weren't around when the document was drafted, I'm sure the founding fathers would have welcomed your rather unique thoughts on where they went wrong.

Read the Constitution!

178 posted on 03/27/2002 11:58:30 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: RAT Patrol
Personally, I think Rush has been a bit soft on Bush. LOL!

Isn't that something for Marta to decide???

179 posted on 03/27/2002 12:01:21 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Miss Marple
You cannot "seal" a 1933-mile border with Mexico. You can increase border patrol agents, ask Mexico to increase security, and send in the national guard to help. These things have been done.

A trench and a fence couldn't hurt.

Side benefit: When digging the trench you will uncover the undiscovered Mexico/US tunnels used for narcotics smuggling.

180 posted on 03/27/2002 12:02:59 PM PST by Lazamataz
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