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To: Constitution Day
One of the candidates, Ada Fisher, posted herself outside the club with a sign protesting the denial of what she called her "free speech."

Oh! This is funny! With all the talk of what's constitutional and what isn't, this is a potential embarassment for her since she apparently doesn't understand the Constitution, either.

The First Amendment states, "CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

This doesn't apply to private property. In my home, I can throw whoever I want out on the street for saying the slightest thing I don't like. This doesn't mean I actually would, but, I'm not violating anyone's Constitutional rights if I were to do so.

This woman's "free speech" was not curtailed. You don't have "free speech" at someone else's party. Congress is not supposed to deprive you of free speech, but people in their private homes and/or gatherings can.

9 posted on 03/26/2002 5:05:16 AM PST by rdb3
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To: rdb3
While your argument is correct, you have ignored or are too stupid to get the point. Liddy Dole would not have any claim to fame if not for her spouse. Her spouse was a war hero, but a political failure who kept winning elections and losing issues for conservatism. This event clearly states the case that conservatives need to turn their backs on the Republican Party because the Republican Party has clearly turned its back on conservatism. While I have been one of the staunchest supporters of the idea of defeating the Democratic Party and that the Republican Party is the only political party that can defeat Demmocrats, the truth is that the Republicans are joining the Democrats' through issue adoption. Republicans are enacting the Democratic agenda. Any victory of Republicans over Democrats is largely empty of substance. Nothing gets the attention quicker than a 2x4 between the eyes. I think it would be a serious mistake for conservatives to stay home in the fall elections. On the contrary, I think we should turn out in droves and work to get the vote out. But instead of voting for Republicans, we should vote for Libertarians or the Constitutional Party or anyother conservative candidate or party in the race. Voting for Democrats or other liberal candidates would be a serious mistake. After the elections results are tabulated, we want to make it easy for the Republican Party and potential Republcian candidates to get the message as to where the votes really are.

If this doesn't work, and admittedly it may not, then it is time for secession. Secession may ultimately prove to be the best option anyway. TERM LIMITS of members of Congress and the federaly judiciary is the only hope of restoring Constitutional integrity to our country, and frankly I don't see it happening over the self-interest of the current powers to be. The only other option is a Constitutional Convention. And perhaps this is worthy of consideration before secession.

Anyway you look at the political options and future of the United States, it is not a pretty picture. The unfunded liabilities of Social Security and Medicare cannot be funded and paid for. The political clout to fix them is expiring at the rate of ten per cent per year. The clock will run out in 2012. There will be no presidential election in 2016 if we don't solve this financial problem before it becomes a crises in 2012. Basically it will have to be solved on Bush's or if he is a one term president, his successor's watch. Without a major shift to the right in Congress, this is not going to happen. For the near term, there is no clear cut leadership or movement that could in effect reduplicated the 1994 Congressional elections. The strategy that I have outlined above can demonstrate to the country and its political leaders the realities of our times. Failing such a dramatic demonstration, I would not expect the changes that must be made to have the political capital or momentum needed to come about. The sand in the hour glass of the United States is running out. We can turn the country around or watch it disintegrate. There really aren't many options. Continuing on the same course is financial ruin and disintegration under chaotic and hysterical conditions. There are only two ways for organized turn around. Scare the Republicans by turning the House and Senate over to Democrats through conservatives voting for conservative third parties or if not available any other conservative candidate, hopefully awakening the Republican Pary to what it has to do if it is to remain a politically viable party. Failing this, a Constitutional Convention would have a chance. But in the final analysis, I think that secession of a single state will result in a stampede of secessions. From this, we should see a group of regional republics competeing with one another for citizens interested in freedom and free enterprise. The socialistic centers will learn a sharp quick lesson in politics and economics. Most of us haven't realized that the United States where we thought we lived and wanted to live again disappeared at least thirty years ago. There may not be any possibility of recapturing it again. And the need may have ended when the Soviet Union collapsed.

43 posted on 03/26/2002 6:36:04 AM PST by B. A. Conservative
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To: rdb3
This woman's "free speech" was not curtailed. You don't have
"free speech" at someone else's party.

Except this was a GOP function, for party members. Hardly private.

87 posted on 03/26/2002 9:36:15 AM PST by itsahoot
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