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Bush-Rice 2004? | The rise and rise of Condi
The Sunday Times of London ^ | March 24, 2002 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 03/25/2002 1:05:22 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative

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To: Jonathon Spectre
Any time you see a black conservative you know you're dealing with one seriously intelligent and fearless human being.

Well said!

61 posted on 03/26/2002 2:56:57 AM PST by cerberus
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To: RAT Patrol
Yeah, you shouldn't include Powell. He's, what's the right word, ummmm, puzzling! That's it.

You're right. Being a conservative black is at times very painful.

TRUST ME. I'm not telling you what I've heard, only what I know from experience.

62 posted on 03/26/2002 3:06:34 AM PST by rdb3
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To: Young Rhino

Actually, a John Edwards/Maxine Waters would be manna from heaven for us. Sadly, the Rats aren't that stupid. So look for Dianne Feinstein to be the VP nominee in 2004.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

63 posted on 03/26/2002 3:10:08 AM PST by section9
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To: section9
Remember, she is a conservative, so the people at the DNC and their racist stooges over at the NAACP are going to try to destroy her anyway they can.

Well, the NAALCCCP will have a hard time destroying her, especially since they just gave her an award this year on their Image Awards show. Pulling out that tape will undo them completely if they try to make such a move.

Doncha just love it?! ;-)

64 posted on 03/26/2002 3:11:03 AM PST by rdb3
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To: rdb3
:)

I just have noticed that when I list my favorite conservatives they are 80% black. I thought, hmmm, why is that? I figured it out. It has nothing to do with their race. It is their character. They are the smartest conservatives. They are the most principled conservatives. They have learned how to disagree with grace conservatives. (Well, Alan Keyes may have too much talk show experience to always remember to do that, but, the man is brilliant.) They tend to represent everything I like, both in principle and in character.

65 posted on 03/26/2002 3:12:01 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Utopia;Redleg Duke
Single issue voters have a one-track mind...and are usually successfully side-tracked by the liberals.

Interesting how they allow the liberals to manipulate them and then turn around and blame the Republicans for putting them in the situation.

Wow! That's well said. So well said, I'll repeat it again.

66 posted on 03/26/2002 3:12:32 AM PST by Samwise
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To: Stultis
What elective offices has she held? Just wondering.

None. This is her biggest weakness, but I don't think it's fatal by any means.

I dunno. That could be a plus, at least with me. She's never sold her soul, so to speak.

67 posted on 03/26/2002 3:16:40 AM PST by Samwise
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To: Redleg Duke
Interesting how they allow the liberals to manipulate them and then turn around and blame the Republicans for putting them in the situation.

When you put your political-view glasses on, things look crazy, don't they? Well done and excellent thought.

As pro-life as I am, I realize that if Roe v. Wade is actually overturned, abortion isn't going away! It will return to the states (where it rightfully belongs) to decide for themselves whether or not to allow it.

The frustrations I have with single issue pro-lifers is that I believe they are under the very wrong impression that overturning Roe v. Wade totally gets rid of abortion. Nothing could be further from the truth. Some states will continue to allow it, and women with the means will then go to those states to have abortions done.

It's just that simple.

Instead of constantly harping on Roe v. Wade, maybe these types of pro-lifers should concentrate on a Constitutional amendment that bans the practice outright. That's the only Constitutionally correct way to go about it. It's an extremely high mountain to climb, but since they are so passionate about it, they should start climbing. As for me, I'll take the overturning of Roe v. Wade and be done with it.

68 posted on 03/26/2002 3:23:52 AM PST by rdb3
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To: eskimo
>> Please outline the Marxist elements present in the policies advocated by Ms. Rice. Please be specific.

> My reference was to background; but perhaps you could tell us the policies she has advocated that have no potential of resulting in an interventionist quagmire.

Nice bait and switch, eskimo. You never fully answered his question, then forced the issue back to him.

Your igloo is melting.

69 posted on 03/26/2002 3:32:09 AM PST by rdb3
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To: GraniteStateConservative
I prefer to refer to him as "Colon" Powell. I think it more appropriate as he is a pain in the rectum.
70 posted on 03/26/2002 5:49:29 AM PST by ZULU
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To: eskimo
My reference was to background; but perhaps you could tell us the policies she has advocated that have no potential of resulting in an interventionist quagmire.

Sorry--a negative can't be proven. You made the implication. The burden of proof is yours.

71 posted on 03/26/2002 6:06:16 AM PST by TigerTale
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To: rdb3; section9
Not only did Rice win the NAACP Presidents Award, but her cousin Constance Rice worked for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and became co-director of the Los Angeles office. She is more liberal I imagine than Condi-- though Constance has remained strangely non-political--, but she would throw a fit if the NAACP attacked Condi.
72 posted on 03/26/2002 6:15:57 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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CONDI WOULD BE GREAT!

I think she's the perfect choice for VP if Cheney bows out.

All this litmus test stuff on abortion makes us sound like a bunch of myopic, single issue Democrats...ala Barbra Boxer.

From a balanced point of view, she has my vote.

73 posted on 03/26/2002 6:18:14 AM PST by willgetsome
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To: Samwise
Thanks...even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while! :-)
74 posted on 03/26/2002 6:34:43 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: rdb3
Thanks, and well-stated comment. We need to pick our fights carefully and take a long term view. Throwing temper tantrums merely marginalize ourselves and delay any achievements.
75 posted on 03/26/2002 6:36:04 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: willgetsome; BibChr
"All this litmus test stuff on abortion makes us sound like a bunch of myopic, single issue Democrats...."

Yeah, some people have the strangest hang-ups about killing babies. The nerve! < /sarcasm >

Some of us aren't going to "get over" things like this.

76 posted on 03/26/2002 6:38:51 AM PST by Artist
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To: Artist
Well, Social Security, national defense, foreign policy, the economy, the judiciary, foreign trade, terrorism, etc. come to mind as other topics of interest....but what am I thinking....only abortion is important.
77 posted on 03/26/2002 6:42:30 AM PST by willgetsome
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To: willgetsome; Artist
So being "okay" with catching living children and poisoning and/or butchering them for the high crime of being inconvenient or imperfect.

What is a big issue with you?

Dan

78 posted on 03/26/2002 6:43:23 AM PST by BibChr
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To: dread78645
Woodrow Wilson was "machine-ed" in as Governor of NY (no bets on why) just to get his name in for president two years later.

Actually, he was "machined" in as Governor of New Jersey. Even worse. :-)

79 posted on 03/26/2002 6:45:21 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: BibChr
Sadly you accuse me of being okay with abortion. If you look at my posts, I never said it was okay. I merely said that its not the only issue for Americans to be worried about.

Your response has solidified my point. Your "all or nothing....either your are with us or against us" mentality serves no meaningful purpose other than to divide people.

I am personally against abortion. However, I see that attacking people, even even those who are in agreement that abortion is bad but are unwilling to be militant in their stance, is stupid.

My only advice to you is: 1) calm down and 2) convert people to your point of view by polite, dedicated arguments. You can't win over people when you try to use a flamethrower on them.

80 posted on 03/26/2002 6:51:44 AM PST by willgetsome
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