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Bush Will Sign Campaign Finance Bill
Yahoo! News ^ | Mar 25, 2002 | Reuters

Posted on 03/25/2002 11:16:37 AM PST by Pay now bill Clinton

Bush Will Sign Campaign Finance Bill
Mon Mar 25,10:19 AM ET

SAN SALVADOR, El Salvador (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) said on Sunday he would sign landmark campaign finance reform legislation with only a slight hesitation, reflecting his ongoing concerns about the measure.

"I won't hesitate" signing it, Bush said at a joint news conference with Salvadoran President Francisco Flores as the president wrapped up a four-day trip to Latin America. "It will probably take about three seconds to get to the W, I may hesitate on the period, and then rip through the Bush."

The legislation to reduce the influence of money in politics won final congressional approval last week, and Bush has pledged to sign it soon.

The bill would ban unlimited contributions known as "soft money" to national political parties, limit such donations to state and local parties and restrict broadcast ads by outside groups shortly before elections.

Former independent counsel Kenneth Starr, whose investigation of Bill Clinton's sex life resulted in the president's impeachment in 1998, is to lead a legal challenge that will seek to knock down most of the measure as unconstitutional.

Bush said he felt the campaign bill did not fully address the need to require identification of who is funding so-called independent groups that introduce "scurrilous, untrue" television advertisements in the last days of a campaign, as he said happened to him in his 2000 presidential campaign.

"I've always thought that people who pump money into the political system, we ought to know who they are," he said.

Bush said that nonetheless the "bill is a better bill than the current system," but that some parts of it might not stand up to a court challenge.


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To: Sir Gawain
I am absolutely against the bill.......I believe it is a violatoin of a lot of rights, including free speech. I think he should veto it.....but I'm not going to commit suicide if he does because I don't know whether he has the authority to or not, unless he is SURE, and I do not know how he could be unless it goes in front of the USSC. Besides what will be left IS beneifcial to the GOP. I don't think we'll ever get this monkey off our backs AND get something that is this "good" again, if we have to have one at all.

I'm willing to let the politicos make the judgments. They're pretty much above my pay level.

261 posted on 03/25/2002 1:21:55 PM PST by Howlin
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To: PhiKapMom
Ole Okie: First to the important news of the weekend -- how about them Sooners?

Hey, those Magnificent Sooners are fabulous! They're going to be at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta next weekend, about 25 miles north of where I currently live. They've got a real shot at the national championship. And Kelvin deserves a raise.

262 posted on 03/25/2002 1:22:07 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: hchutch
Well, pardon me if I happen to think that the long-term plan is working this time.

If the long-term plan is to take a hot steaming dump on what's left of the constitution, then it's working perfectly.

263 posted on 03/25/2002 1:22:55 PM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
They also can't stop Hillary or others who are destroying the Republic. Right now, it seems that a number of people here are not satisfied unless the GOP makes the political equivalent of Pickett's Charge on demand.

NEWSFLASH: Pickett's Charge was an absolute DISASTER in 1863. It's political equivalent would be an absolute DISASTER today.

264 posted on 03/25/2002 1:23:03 PM PST by hchutch
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To: NittanyLion

Yes, it does..

Actually, I am not even really pissed at them for saying it.

It just makes me sad.

265 posted on 03/25/2002 1:23:16 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
You captured my thoughts on the subject perfectly.

It's like being on the Twighlight Zone or something.

266 posted on 03/25/2002 1:23:42 PM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
The politics/principle chasm was reached about 100 posts ago. It's past time to leave this thread.
267 posted on 03/25/2002 1:24:09 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Howlin
Unless you don't ever want to hold the Senate and House and White House again.

Do you really believe that an issue with so little traction in public opinion polls would cost the Republicans so much, especially when quite a few Republicans supported it (unfortunately)?

The argument that vetoing CFR would result in a political armageddon for the Republicans is farfetched to say the least. I can understand why Bush would take the path of least resistance, but killing the bill wouldn't have the kind of effect you attribute to it. The Dems will still smear Republicans who opposed it, not to mention those who supported it.

If you think the Democrats will go easy because the "moderate" Republicans throw them a bone, you are sadly mistaken. They'll attack as viciously as ever, no matter what our side does. Why not make a case to the American public, then, instead of running scared?

268 posted on 03/25/2002 1:24:19 PM PST by Polonius
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To: Jhoffa_
Bet on a big "see, I told you so" party here on FR, to celebrate our loss of speech.

And when that doesn't happen, what will you do for us?

269 posted on 03/25/2002 1:24:25 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
How silly of you. Let's stand up and veto it; then we can debate it for the rest of our lives. Not to mention giving the Dems AND the press a huge issue.

So now we worry about the left wing press that is NEVER going to do anything but crucify consrvatives

SCREW THEM
Let Bush use the Bully Pulpit like a true leader and explain how the average persons freedom of speech is threatened
270 posted on 03/25/2002 1:25:30 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Sir Gawain
Bump on your #140 btw.
271 posted on 03/25/2002 1:25:41 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: michigander
Ooops....I got confused....sorry.

BTW, in that same question and answer session, he discussed the 60 day ads.

272 posted on 03/25/2002 1:25:56 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

First, I will wonder why.

I mean, after all. That is your position, right?

You should be happy to be vindicated.

Then I will probably go back to being dissapointed.

I don't want to fight with you about this Howlin, but it's not right and we both know it.

273 posted on 03/25/2002 1:27:45 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Tuxedo
I agree with you. The blame falls squarely on the House
Repubs for allowing this garbage to get to Bush's desk.

Sure they are, but I only get to vote for one congressman and
two senators. That is why I voted for Bush, to protect me from
Feinstien, Boxer. Had a good congressman for a while, until
he decided to go sking.

274 posted on 03/25/2002 1:28:32 PM PST by itsahoot
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To: hchutch
They also can't stop Hillary or others who are destroying the Republic. Right now, it seems that a number of people here are not satisfied unless the GOP makes the political equivalent of Pickett's Charge on demand. NEWSFLASH: Pickett's Charge was an absolute DISASTER in 1863. It's political equivalent would be an absolute DISASTER today

NEWSFLASH: I'd be happy with one simple stand in defense of the constitution... Just one..

But instead we get abuse after abuse after abuse... all to a chorus of political excuse-mongers and spin-meisters telling us how it's all a part of the "big plan" to save us by continuing to screw us over.

Take a step back and look at the state of the union.

It's dying...

Stabbing it in the chest won't save it, despite your continued pretense to the contrary.

And wagging the Hillary boogeyman to scare people into submission isn't going to cut it either. The reason the Hillary's of the world even exist, is because spineless-assed republicans can't muster enough testosterone between them to call a spade a spade.

They spend their time falling all over each other to see who can out socialist the socialists.

A pox on both their houses.

275 posted on 03/25/2002 1:28:46 PM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
It's like being on the Twighlight Zone or something.

I'm sorry but one's twilight zone is another's smart politics.

JMO, OWK you are never going to find your perfect candidate and your perfect politcal enviroment. It is literally a political jungle out there, and you have to do what you can to survive.

And in the political jungle you don't make yourself an easy target.

276 posted on 03/25/2002 1:29:46 PM PST by Dane
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To: Howlin
"Harrison, you then went on to tell me that if I don't see things the way you see them, I'm practicing moral relativism,"

I did no such thing. I pointed out that the statement "Just because I disagree with you doesn't make me wrong" was morally relativistic in its language. Words have meaning. If you're an honest person, you have to concede that the statement must be true for both of us. The only way to interpret it then is "Nobody's wrong."

Moral relativism. Either that or meaningless verbage.

277 posted on 03/25/2002 1:30:32 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: uncbob
BTW
I should add. Let Bush veto it explain WHY and then let the boobs in congress overide it and THEN have SCOTUS strike it down. Bush will look like a genius and McCain and his asskissers like fools

Bush signs it and it is overturned he looks JUST as dumb as Congress

Now dispute that political logic ANYBODY
278 posted on 03/25/2002 1:30:38 PM PST by uncbob
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To: GraniteStateConservative
We don't elect Presidents by a popular vote. W won because he carried enough states. He won't do that if he loses his base in even one of those red states. If he signs CFR, he'll look just like his daddy and he'll lose the base. Read my lips.
279 posted on 03/25/2002 1:31:19 PM PST by Redcloak
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To: OWK; Congressman Billybob
I'll ask again, do you want this thing dead PERMANENTLY, or do you want it merely delayed?

Because right now, this thing will be PERMANETLY dead within fifteen months, if Congressman Billybob is right. From what I've gathered about his resume and his experience, his confidence does not seem to be unfounded.

Since the Supreme Court cannot issue advisory opinions (again, ask the good Congressman if you do not wish to take my word for it), the only way to kill it permanently is to let it become law.

There's a difference between a principled stand and the political equivalent of Pickett's Charge.

280 posted on 03/25/2002 1:34:45 PM PST by hchutch
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