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The 1930s, Again: A hard rain is going to fall.
National Review ^ | March 25, 2002 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 03/25/2002 7:59:07 AM PST by aculeus

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To: belmont_mark
Imagine...

Spanish King Juan Carlos (L) admires the Moscow's Kremlin during a tour with Russian President Vladimir Putin, August 18, 2002. Russia confirmed on Sunday it was set to sign a $40 billion economic and trade cooperation agreement with Iraq, a move that could complicate Washington's plans to deal with Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. REUTERS/ITAR-TASS/KREMLIN PRESS SERVICE

Malachi 1

1   The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
2   I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3   And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4   Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.
5   And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The LORD will be magnified from the border of Israel.

Edom: Literally, red
Edom saith, We are impoverished, [give us wheat, IMF money] but we will return and build the desolate places; [ancient Babylon, Iraq]

161 posted on 08/23/2002 3:46:27 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr
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To: SwordofTruth; 4ConservativeJustices; billbears; stainlessbanner; aomagrat; kjenerette; PJeffQ; ...
SwordofTruth quacked:
"The South started the war and the North finished it. End of story. Get over it."

I've noticed that Yankee apologists seem to have an overweening predilection for the "Get over it" mantra.

I also find more than a touch of irony that the flag below is prominently displayed on your profile page.
How about you?

Do work on sharpening your "Sword" a bit, will you?

CD

162 posted on 08/23/2002 5:40:01 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day; SwordofTruth
How about I throw something out that was posted by a yankee worshiper (self-decribed as never voting for a Republican President - yet seems to worship a certain Republican President):
That is because I found this, posted on the moderated ACW newsgroup:
"In 1861, President Lincoln appointed Dana as United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Massachusetts. As such, in 1863, he successfully defended the United States in the Prize Cases before the United States Supreme Court (these were a group of cases, consolidated for appeal, on the capture of ships attempting to break the blockade of the Confederate ports. The issue argued revolved around two separate issues: was the Rebellion a "war" and when did the "Civil War" begin, in April, '61, with President Lincoln's Declaration of a blockade or in the summer when Congress approved what the president had done. The court unanimously ruled in favor of the administration's position that the Rebellion was a war but more narrowly (5-4) supporting the premise that the president's call for troops on April marked the beginning of the war. Not surprisingly Chief Justice Taney felt that the war could only begin when Congress said it did, very much as he had done in ex parte Merryman [67 U.S. (2 Black) 635]."
What do you know. Lincoln started the war.
163 posted on 08/23/2002 5:59:59 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: Constitution Day
SwordofTruth signed up 2002-08-19
164 posted on 08/23/2002 6:23:23 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Yeah, I know.
Must be a lackey for 'Wlat'.
165 posted on 08/23/2002 6:29:21 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: belmont_mark
And what about the evil machinatitons of the House of Saud to fund all the evil in the world, to oppose the USA at every turn, until we collapse?
166 posted on 08/23/2002 6:32:44 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Excellent... is that a message from our old buddy Wlat?
He should be along any moment with his reams of cut-and-paste fallacies.

Thanks, my FRiend. Deo Vindice.

167 posted on 08/23/2002 6:40:47 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: aculeus

After 30 years of listening to nauseating chanting from Teheran to Islamabad to Nablus, hearing the
childish rants about "The Mother of All Battles" and "The Great Satan," and witnessing presidents from
Carter to Bush burned in effigy, the ritual torching of the American flag, the misspelled banners of hatred,
the thousands of paint-by-the-numbers posters of psychopaths from Khomeini to bin Laden, televised
threats that sound as hideous as they are empty, Nazi-inspired anti-Semitism, embassy takeovers,
oil-boycotts, hijacked planes, cars, and ships, lectures from unelected obese sheiks with long names and
gold chains, peacekeepers incinerated in their sleep, murders at the Olympics, bodies dumped on the
tarmac of airports, shredded diplomats, madmen in sunglasses in Iraq, Syria, and Libya, demented
mullahs and whip-bearing imams in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Iran, continual televised murders of
Americans abroad, our towers toppled, our citizens butchered, our planes blown up, hooded Klansmen in
Hamas and Hezbollah, killers of al-this and Islamic-that, suicide bombers, shrill turbaned nuts spouting
hatred on C-SPAN broadcasts, one day the salvation of Kuwait, the next sanctions against the swallower
of Kuwait, the third day fury against the sanctions against the swallower of Kuwait, the fourth day some
grievance from 1953, the fifth another from A.D. 752; and all the time sanctimonious fingerpointing from
Middle Eastern academics and journalists who are as bold abroad in insulting us as they are timid and
obsequious under dictators at home in keeping silent, I've about had it. No mas. The problem is you, not
us — you, you, you…. 

I don't listen any more to the apologies and prevarications of our whiney university Arabists, our
equivocators in the state department, and the really tawdry assortment of oil men, D.C. insiders, bought
and paid for PR suits, and weapons hucksters. The truth is that a large minority of the Middle Eastern
world wishes a war with America that it cannot win — and much of the rest is apparently either
indifferent or amused. 

So we should stop apologizing, prepare for the worst, hope for the best, and accept this animosity — just
as our forefathers once did when faced by similar autocrats and their captive peoples who threatened us in
1941. I don't know about the rest of America, but I am proud that thugs like Khaddafi, murderers like
Saddam Hussein, inquisitionists like the mullahs in Iran, criminals in Syria, medieval sheiks in the Gulf,
and millions of others who do not vote, do not speak freely, oppress women, and are not tolerant of
religious, gender, or ethnic diversity don't like me for being an American. 
I would find it repugnant if they did.

F**king A RIGHT! The REAL TRUTH, unvarnished, and about time.

168 posted on 08/23/2002 6:46:49 AM PDT by tet68
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To: aculeus
bttt
169 posted on 08/23/2002 6:54:33 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Constitution Day
another newbie yak yak yankee transplant.
170 posted on 08/23/2002 8:49:29 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
another newbie yak yak yankee transplant.

Yep.
I see that he hasn't been back yet.

Maybe he fell on his Sword.

171 posted on 08/23/2002 8:56:36 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Noumenon
It ain't rocket science, is it?

You sure wouldn't think so, but sometimes it makes you wonder.

172 posted on 08/23/2002 9:15:50 AM PDT by bat-boy
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To: aculeus
Popular support for an outright war on Iraq has dropped from 63% to 51% in the past few months. Still high numbers. War on Japan never reached 100% approval, and opinion of war on Germany even in WW II was never 100% either. Even the War of Independence hardly reached 33% approval.
173 posted on 08/23/2002 9:20:59 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: aculeus
Don't know what the readership of the National review is but I hope the article gets widespread distribution. Am emailing a copy to my congressmen and senators (major league BARF alert, it's Barbara Boxer)
174 posted on 08/23/2002 9:27:28 AM PDT by paul51
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To: Noumenon
That is a chilling post.

Thanks

175 posted on 08/23/2002 9:34:48 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: aculeus
Mein Koran tells us what we need to know. The 9/11 attack crossed this generation's Rubicon. So far, in this War on Terrorism, we are mobilizing against NGO's (nongovernmental organizations, a UN favorite), which provide the actual Islamic states behind this war against us with "plausible deniability".

Islam is preaching Pan-Islam, one way or another. Jihad appeals to the jealousy and envy of men and boys in failed societies; these societies are breeding at rates greater than our society is willing to kill. "We die so that we may live forever." must have a good ring to it, when mythologized with a promise of 72 virgins. We are targets of a social system that preaches death to those unwilling to join the spread of hate.

The Trojan Horse is here, filled with 5th columnists. The fact so many Americans don't know what the former sentence refers to weakens us greatly in the coming battles. Mein Koran establishes the premise for war against our children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and on into perpetuity if we do not wage a war to utterly vanquish our mortal enemies.

A new kind of Battle of Midway is approaching. 60 years ago didn't we have the sense to launch a pre-emptive attack the Japanese fleet sailing in international waters? The New World Order is evolving before our very eyes.

176 posted on 08/23/2002 9:50:08 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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To: Constitution Day
Why yes, it was a quote from our friend Wlat. I thanked him profusely for that quote. ;o)
177 posted on 08/23/2002 10:18:53 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
(snicker)
178 posted on 08/23/2002 10:29:42 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
I take it you appreciate it as well? ;o)
179 posted on 08/23/2002 12:01:01 PM PDT by 4CJ
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Yes, very much so!
180 posted on 08/23/2002 12:25:58 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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