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To: cynicom
Your post #44. Can we see some evidence, please?
54 posted on 03/25/2002 10:20:25 AM PST by Romulus
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To: Romulus
"The Vatican made me do it" theory of National Socialism is essentially the single-bullet theory for World War II. There were multiple factors of causation leading to the events of 1933-1945. There was in fact a Catholic candidate who ran against Hitler for election. The Soviet Communists ordered Communist Party members in Germany to throw their support behind Hitler because they thought this would hasten the coming of a Communist Revolution in Germany. Hitler had supporters in England and America. Just like the burning of the Reichstag and the peace negotiations with Britain, the "Concordat" with the Vatican was yet another of Hitler's forked-tongue diplomatic smokescreens. If there is any one or group who deserves a lot of blame for setting up the power vacuum which led to the Nazi insanity, it was President Wilson and his wacko liberal advisers who created the idiotic Versailles Treaty toppling Austria-Hungary and the Kaiser. This was the opinion of Winston Churchill. Check out Churchill'sThe Gathering Storm for more on the ludicrously insane diplomacy which created the Weimar Republic and its power vacuum which opened the door for the Nazis. Read about the Stalin-Hitler pact in Kennan's memoirs for how the Communists WANTED the Nazis to gain power, etc., etc.
59 posted on 03/25/2002 10:50:03 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Romulus, askel5
The notion that Pius XII was a Hitlerphile is, simply put, crap.

What, however, do you make of Loftus' claim, corrobarated I believe, that Pius XII was so intent on keeping Communism out of Europe that he did do some horsetrading to bolster the prospects of Catholic politicians in the Intermarium area between Dansk and Trieste?

I think it's an interesting story, and one wherein he cames away looking good, willing to deal with a vanquished devil, and Croatian thugs in particular, to do battle against a new eveil

150 posted on 04/24/2002 9:32:33 PM PDT by a history buff
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