The Nazis weren't Christians.

Opinion Journal ^ | MONDAY, MARCH 25 | ROBERT L. BARTLEY

[Skooz]

Holy Week is by no means all sweetness and light. This Friday Christians mark the crucifixion, a terrible event redeemed by the resurrection three days later. The Jews gather on Thursday for Passover, celebrating the Exodus from slavery as the angel of death skipped Jewish homes during Egypt's tenth plague, the killing of the firstborn. So perhaps it's not an inappropriate time to discuss another terrible topic, the Holocaust, and in particular the divisive issue of Christian culpability in the Nazi genocide of the Jews. It is not the purpose here to dismiss the long history of anti-Semitism in Christian lands. By now most Christians agree this was a sin, and its legacy surely played an important role in laying a groundwork for the Nazis and in muting opposition to the "final solution."

[Skooz]

Add to this the fact that Hitler removed the Bibles in all churches within the Reich and replaced them with Mein Kampf (in 1936, I believe) and those who wish to connect the dots between Christianity and Naziism have a very flimsy case indeed.

[Skooz]

Oh, and also the fact that Hitler called the Apostle Paul "the most dangerous Jew."

[Mark17]

those who wish to connect the dots between Christianity and Naziism have a very flimsy case indeed.

Not only do they have a flimsy case, but they are idiots and slime balls, kind of like most democrats.

[DallasMike]

Sir - Your Christian's have such a great historie of killing people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come back when you learn to spell, use proper grammar, and know just a touch more about real "historie."

[Restorer]

It included an intention to "exterminate irrevocably . . . the strange and foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800."

In 800 the Germans had been Christian for closing on 500 years. The only thing that 800 is famous for is the crowning of Karl der Gross as Roman Emperor. How this correlates to the introduction of Christianity in that year is a great mystery.

[jboot]

People have a history of killing people. That people who call themselve Christians are not exempt from this fact of human nature is unsuprising. Adherants to other religions, and even the irreligious (such as Adolph Hitler), have a great deal more blood on their hands, much of it not yet dry.

[cynicom]

For the record, were all of those that did the killing, Nazis, and thus non-christians? Where is the cutoff level for non-christians or were all of the millions of Germans caught up in that sad affair atheists???

[11th Earl of Mar]

I will accept responsibility for all people killed in the name of Chrisitianity in the last 2000 years if you accept responsibility for the hundreds of millions killed in the name of atheism in just this century.

Deal?

[scooby321]

National Socialist Germany saw the resurgence of Man as an instinctive animal, a part of nature, in contrast to the Christian dogma of man distinct and apart from nature. Man's animal self was repressed by the Nazarene creed, and the political dogmas it gave birth to. These anti-life forces, including Marxism, Christianity and capitalism, repressed the instinctive nature of Man.

A movement to promote Thulian ideas among industrial workers and to offset Marxism, was formed in 1918 –-the Workers' Political Circle - with Thulist Karl Harrer as chairman. From this came the German Workers' Party in 1919. A year later this became the NSDAP under the leadership of Adolf Hitler

[Mark17]

Deal?

Do you ever get the feeling you could have a more intelligent conversation with a brick wall, than this individual?

[jboot]

And what question is that? Does it suprise you that human beings delight in murder, irrespective of thier faith or lack thereof? Do you see religion as the cause of this problem, rather than an attempt to answer it? If so, I suppose that you could believe that Hitlerism equals Christianity.

And, based on everything that we know about human beings, you would be terribly wrong, having placed the cart squarely before the horse. Could it be that you actually believe in the innate goodness of human beings? Do you adhere to the notion that human beings, left to their own devices, without creed or doctrine or tradition, would be peaceful, loving beings at one with one another and at harmony with the earth? If you do, your faith in human beings has become a religion in itself.

[daapfe]

A good book to read to prove that nazis were anything BUT nazi's.. Trevor Revenscroff The Spear of Destiny. It Chronicles how the nazi party was founded on black magic and the principles of Darkness.. To get your mind blown away and see how evil The Nazis and Hitler actually were.It is a book well worth reading... Another thing Hitler was a huge Fan Of Richard Wagners operas but in Wagners last opera,Parsifal it showed the sacrifice of Christ.. And Hitler hated it cause it showed a lack of will to live by Christ. So Hitler banned Parsifal.. So if you are interested find the book. 173rd son.

[daapfe]

A good book to read to prove that nazis were anything BUT nazi's.. Trevor Revenscroff The Spear of Destiny. It Chronicles how the nazi party was founded on black magic and the principles of Darkness.. To get your mind blown away and see how evil The Nazis and Hitler actually were.It is a book well worth reading... Another thing Hitler was a huge Fan Of Richard Wagners operas but in Wagners last opera,Parsifal it showed the sacrifice of Christ.. And Hitler hated it cause it showed a lack of will to live by Christ. So Hitler banned Parsifal.. So if you are interested find the book. 173rd son.

[cicero's_son]

80MM+ in China
50MM+ in the Soviet Union
8MM in Cambodia
1MM in North Korea

And we can leave Hitler out of this, since you are apparently so thick that you don't understand the man's own words. Hitler called Christianity a "social scandal" against the German people and vowed the destruction of the Catholic church after he finished with the Jews.

We can also leave out the slaughter of the French Revolution, with infamous rape of the Vendee (nuns and priests being repeatedly raped to death, that sort of thing).

We can leave out the North Vietnamese communists because no one actually knows how many they killed.

When it comes to killing the innocent, nobody can beat the Atheists.

[mondonico]

At one presidential prayer breakfast, Bill Clinton offered the opinion that "Adolf Hitler preached a perverted form of Christianity."

Today, the NYT's Editorial Page opined as follows:

The nation may never again see a president with Bill Clinton's natural political talents, his instinctive grasp of policy and his breadth of understanding of governmental issues.

Clinton's Nazi slur of Christianity show that his "instinctive grasp" and "breadth of understanding" are terribly overrated.

[Skooz]

You are absolutely correct. It's not even close.