Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

It is very sad that President Bush is taking this matter so lightly. While I have generally been a supporter of the President, this promised signature on CFR--following his signing the partly unconstitutional Patriot Act--is seriously eroding what support I had for him.

I still support him as commander-in-chief and his leadership in the war on terror, but he needs to reread the Constitution--especially the Bill of Rights.

1 posted on 03/24/2002 8:22:33 PM PST by kristinn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-40 next last
To: All
Apparently, the bill has not been signed yet, so there is still time to call the White House tomorrow morning to let President Bush know if you want him to veto Shays-Meehan.
2 posted on 03/24/2002 8:26:18 PM PST by kristinn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
I'm disgusted ...
3 posted on 03/24/2002 8:26:35 PM PST by Polonius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
With CFR I predict more corruption not less.
4 posted on 03/24/2002 8:26:59 PM PST by Calculus_of_Consent
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
We(conservative)Republicans have been had.

Again!

5 posted on 03/24/2002 8:27:52 PM PST by KDD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
Bush has been manouvered into signing the bill by the RINOs in his own party. Local representatives and senators are better able to take the heat on this than he is. However, too many of them caved in to the media on this one.

Bush will sign the bill. The Supreme Court will void it.

Instead of picking on Bush, write those rascally RINOs who represent you and tell them that since they act no better than a Democrat, you're going to help replace them with the real McGilla next time. Its the only language these dirtbags understand.

8 posted on 03/24/2002 8:31:23 PM PST by ZULU
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
Here's a CFR chuckle for you, President George W.:
Your Dad compromised with the liberals too,
And we suffered through 8 loooooooong years
Of flesh-pot democrats.

We're not laughing, so why should you?

12 posted on 03/24/2002 8:35:10 PM PST by Graewoulf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
Many conservatives believe President Bush will be ripping through the Constitution when he signs the bill.

Yep. He took an oath to support the Constitution, and he will be violating that oath if he signs this legislation.

Which leads to the question why is he going to sign in?

Some claim he's doing it to "take a political issue away from the dems". But this doesn't make sense since 1) the dems will just find another issue, and 2) CFR has never been a big issue among the voters. If it really mattered to most people, McCain and Bradley would have won the nominations for president in 2000.

Others claim he's doing it to maintain his popularity. This argument, in and of itself, is pretty troubling, since we just had 8 years of it. But to address the point, his approval rating is at 85%. Just how much would he lose if he vetoed it? Rush Limbaugh has even pointed out a way for Bush to gain popularity by vetoing it.

Still others say that he's doing it as part of a "secret plan" to pick up seats for the GOP in the elections this year, by taking the dems issues away. But what better way is there to win, than by showing the dems to be traitors against the 1st amendment?

If none of these are the real reasons, then exactly what is the reason? Occam's Razor basically states that the simplest answer to a question is usually the correct one. In this case, the simplest answer appears to be that Bush really doesn't care about our Rights or the Constitution.

13 posted on 03/24/2002 8:37:34 PM PST by Mulder
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
I sure miss those pictorial reports of the D.C. Chapter FREEPS OF THE WHITEHOUSE!!!

Maybe it's time for you beautiful people to hit the bricks with your beautiful signs and chants, once again.

Even Everett Dirksen, venerable Repellican Senator from IL used to say... "The more I feel the heat, the more I see the light!"

14 posted on 03/24/2002 8:37:56 PM PST by SierraWasp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
The real joke will come thru for him when he trys to get reelected in three years!..
22 posted on 03/24/2002 8:49:21 PM PST by arly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Howlin; nopardons; Dane; Texasforever; sinkspur; america-rules
Thoughts?
26 posted on 03/24/2002 8:52:23 PM PST by Polonius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
Being President means making choices between awful and God awful much of the time.

What if you had a crystal ball, and could see into the future, and could see that if you signed the CFR bill that you would get control of the Senate back and be able to appoint pro-life judges to the appellate and Supreme court, and that the parts of the bill you didn't like would be declared unconstitutional by SCOTUS.

And then you looked into the crystal ball and saw that if you vetoed the bill, that you would not get control of the Senate, and that all pro-life judges you appointed would not be allowed on the courts as the Democrats continued to use a religious test for office to determine their consent.

What would you do?

32 posted on 03/24/2002 8:56:21 PM PST by patriciaruth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
"I still support him as commander-in-chief and his leadership in the war on terror."

My thoughts EXACTLY.
33 posted on 03/24/2002 8:57:12 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
I somehow smell a democrat setup and a downfall for W on signing this bill! On the other hand, when I think of what the democrats really want to do to our land, I think of the movie "The Patriot", and it makes me all the more want my country in the hands of George W Bush and not that of a British democrat!

Bush is a smart leader, but we have to give him time to overcome the democrats, after all, they are the enemies to our beloved United States of America! REMEMBER THE CLINTONS AND YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I MEAN! Grassontop

50 posted on 03/24/2002 9:07:21 PM PST by Grassontop
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
That's real funny, George, you're a laugh riot. Maybe Bush is the stunted adolescent some in the press have accused him of being. It's bad enough he's signing this piece of crap for alleged political reasons, but does he have to be so flippant about it? Bush already lost my trust and respect in the last month or so, now he can add my sense of humor to the list.
57 posted on 03/24/2002 9:12:58 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
It's a shame that President Bush cannot do the right thing which is not sign this bill. I will be leaning towards not voting for him in the next election.
61 posted on 03/24/2002 9:15:24 PM PST by freekitty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
I hardly think making a joke about the Constitution is worthy of someone holding our nation's highest office. Especially when the comes to putting it above your craven political needs. And Mr. President, it seems to so many of us your actions belie conservative principles. You say you want us on board but apparently as long as we don't do anything to embarrass your staff's pursuit of Republicans without real convictions label. Good idea. If we stay home in November maybe that will provided a much needed wake-up call for the White House. If it still doesn't the party base will be certainly to reflect it in 2004. People may not care if you sign CFR, but they will certainly take offense if you and your people act like we're the crazy aunt in the basement.
62 posted on 03/24/2002 9:15:51 PM PST by goldstategop
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
CFR isn't a dealbreaker with me, bt it's pretty close.

How in the world can you sign something that's UnConstitutional and then expect to the Supreme Court to play "goalie" and prevent serious damage from being done?

Signing this bill is risking the Bill of Rights for political gain.

It's gambling with our rights to avoid looking "bad"

How the hell is this consistant with the oath Dubya took to uphold the Constitution? It's literally Betting the First Amendment on a crapshoot.

64 posted on 03/24/2002 9:17:21 PM PST by Jhoffa_
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn,All
VOICE YOUR OPINION!

Free Internet Fax Service
Free E-Mail to Fax from your computer, just fill in form on page , they do the rest.
Make sure you enter fax # like this 12024562461 (no spaces or -)
Areas they SEND free faxes to includes ALL of WASH. DC Area Code 202


Is the number you want them to SEND FREE FAX covered?

Complete list of areas they SEND FREE FAXES to

White House Fax (202) 456-2461
(202) 456-6538 alternate fax number given out by White House
74 posted on 03/24/2002 9:23:52 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
What does our president think about our rights?

Bush, in a statement issued Wednesday night, had expressed misgivings about whether parts of the bill were constitutional but said that he would sign the bill anyway.

We are in some serious trouble when our president thinks nothing of signing an unconstitutional bill.


81 posted on 03/24/2002 9:27:07 PM PST by antidemocommie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kristinn
"Occam's Razor basically states that the simplest answer to a question is usually the correct one."......there is no good explanation except the obvious. I am furious that he would participate in the blocking of third party candidates which is what this bill will do. I am furious that he gives the media the power to sway elections right before the elections. This is unconstitutional and something needs to be done about it. If you havn't already done so, go to numbersusa.com and fax the Whitehouse with your anger. While you are at it, take a minute to mailblaster.com the House and Senate! We MUST hold them accountable!
87 posted on 03/24/2002 9:31:01 PM PST by brat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-40 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson