[marbren]

Believe in Jesus, he is faithful. Understand that the church, any church, is full of unreliable sinners. Jesus is who we believe not the church.

[Conservative til I die]

Believe in Jesus, he is faithful. Understand that the church, any church, is full of unreliable sinners. Jesus is who we believe not the church.

Guess Jesus was LYING when He established His Church, as documented in the Gospel of Matthew.

Now let me guess: All ya need is Jay-zuz, the Church on the Seven Hills, whoremaster of Babylon, beast of Revelations, idolatry, worshipping Mary, blah blah blah blah ad nauseum. Rinse. Repeat....."

Am I close enough yet?