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Sarah Brady, Gun Criminal?
NEWSMAX ^ | 3/22/02 | Limbacher

Posted on 03/22/2002 11:41:39 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Move over, Rosie O'Donnell: The newest "celebrity" anti-gun hypocrite is Sarah Brady.

Mrs. Brady "bought her son a powerful rifle for Christmas in 2000 - and may have skirted Delaware state background-check requirements," the New York Daily News reported Thursday.

Some people will do anything to tell a book. No doubt to increase interest in what otherwise would be a boring memoir, the gun rights opponent writes that she bought James Brady Jr. a Remington .30-06, "complete with scope and safety lock," at a gun shop in Lewes, Del.

"I can't describe how I felt when I picked up that rifle, loaded it into my little car and drove home," she writes. "It seemed so incredibly strange: Sarah Brady, of all people, packing heat."

According to her book, the store ran federal Brady Law and state background checks with much ado. But the book suggests she did not have her son checked, as required by Delaware law.

Delaware Justice Department spokeswoman Lori Sitler said the purchase could be illegal if Mrs. Brady did not say who she was buying the gun for and submit his "name, rank and serial number" for an inquiry.

"You can't purchase a gun for someone else," Sitler told the Daily News. "That would be a 'straw purchase.' You've got a problem right there."

Gun rights advocates were surprised to hear of Mrs. Brady's antics.

"We hope that it's innocuous and there's been no laws violated," said James Jay Baker, chief lobbyist for National Rifle Association. "It's obviously interesting that Sarah would be purchasing firearms of any kind for anybody, given her championing of restrictive guns laws for everyone."

Seniors United Supporting the Second Amendment told NewsMax.com it was asking Delaware and the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate "what appears to be a criminal act" by Mrs. Brady.

"Sarah Brady is infamous for her radical anti-Second Amendment positions and her work to strip the citizens if the United States of their civil rights. She is the head of an extremist group that is working to gut the Bill of Rights," the group said in a statement.

"Sarah Brady is typical of the anti-civil rights radicals," noted John Bender, executive director of SUSSA. "She wants to ban private transfers of guns for everyone but her and her elitist friends. If a black mother in a Delaware public housing apartment did this she would already be charged with a crime. I’m wondering if Delaware has different enforcement standards for rich white women.”

The group concluded: "Sarah Brady is one of the leaders in the anti-civil rights movement’s attempt to make all private transfers of firearms illegal. Along with other extremists she pushed Congress to make this type of straw purchase illegal. Law enforcement should show her what her work has accomplished."

Mrs. Brady became a media-adored opponent of the Second Amendment after her husband, James, White House press secretary to President Ronald Reagan, was shot in a 1981 assassination attempt on Reagan.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: antisecondamendment; banglist; moosewatch; sarahbrady
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To: Sungirl
he can't do it alone....that's why he can kill defenseless animals

No, it is you who can't support your agenda in public.

Thanks for the freepmail, I'm posting it next. I'm not afraid to post for all to see. That's why it's a forum, not a privat chat room.

Isn't there an unwritten rule that you should ask before freepmailing?

421 posted on 03/27/2002 2:16:53 PM PST by Gun142
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To: MotleyGirl70
Most lipsticks have whale and other animal by-products in them

Actually ...most of the expensive lipsticks use whale sperm in them.

422 posted on 03/27/2002 2:18:27 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
Re: Sarah Brady, Gun Criminal?
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From Sungirl
Received 2002-03-27 15:06:59
That was already adressed in the thread.
I dont' understand what using animal products has to do with hunters? Hunters are just macho men who have this horribble character flaw that leads them to kill defenseless animals. (PLease see #70 and #72 as you qualify) They do not do it to help the medical community or necessary clothing. They break the law or kill innocent animals for thrill...it's been admitted in here already.



(PLease see #70 and #72 as you qualify)

I visited those posts and want you to prove how I qualify.... without making a bigger bigot of yourself.


423 posted on 03/27/2002 2:18:48 PM PST by Gun142
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To: Gun142
I made all my points...hunters thrill kill (kill another animal out of boredom or for the hell of it)...teach and don't care if there kids thrill kill.....kill endangered species.....drink while shooting.......lie about quotas caught......trespass.....have this uncontrolled urge to kill.....feel guilty sometimes when they kill...and can't argue without support. If I think of anything else I'll let you know. You also lack character for posting Private emails...but I would not expect anything less from this group.
424 posted on 03/27/2002 2:23:26 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: Abundy
You go dude! Yeah I have noticed that the people who have a hard time with real life are those who watched movies like Bambi for their nature education and fell into an anthropomorphizing rut ("Hellllp! I've fallen and I can't get up!")...That's something people who can't afford the luxury of not growing up eventually find their way out of.
425 posted on 03/27/2002 3:25:29 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Destructor
LOL great idea!
426 posted on 03/27/2002 3:27:33 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Sungirl
You do not say you 'PREFER' to hunt than go to the market. You said it's shallow and lazy to buy meat at the supermarket. Where do you see the word 'prefer"??

Where do you see us say we never buy meat at the grocery store? In fact those who raise their OWN meat and butcher their own livestock for food are not remaining in blissful ignorance of the facts of life like you are. If ALL you do is buy meat at the store, then you are much more able to ignore the fact that animals DIE every day for you to live. (e.g. remain in blissful ignorance made possible only by the level of affluence we enjoy in this country).

Don't feel bad, there are tons of people out there that share your inability to think straight. You might even be able to find a support group.

427 posted on 03/27/2002 3:49:50 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Gun142
They break the law or kill innocent animals for thrill

Apparently this in reference to my post saying "Have you never done anything stupid?" Which constitutes an admission of ongoing guilt of some kind. She never paid much attention in English class to "past tense" or "past perfect tense" and "present tense" or "present perfect tense."

Think I'll go pop some innocent squirrels to vent my frustration in dealing with someone of such supreme ignorance. I just can't control myself any longer. Bye bye squirrels, you have Sungirl to thank for it. I might even try and just cripple one so my dog can have the thrill of finishing it off. (He's a little slow, so a fully intact squirrel would be too hard for him to catch...)

Anyone for some squirrel stroganoff at my house?

428 posted on 03/27/2002 3:50:19 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Sungirl
Thrill killing ...or shooting endangered species.....or more deer than allowed...I was including it all.

I wonder, do you ever speed? Ever have a beer and then drive? Ever... run a stop light? Or even better, ever step on the gas instead of the brake when you see the light is yellow up ahead? Forget to use your turn signal?

I wonder if it would be OK to break the law, such as breaking and entering, to rescue an animal perceived as being in danger/neglected in the place it was in?

Boy that .20 cal airgun does a wonderful job on squirrels! So much more effective than the .177 cal... so many destructive squirrels on my property ran off after being hit, never to be recovered. I suppose I could have kept the .177 since it was so much cheaper (only $50)... and the squirrels were going to die anyway from being hit with it, pretty certain. It was an effective deterrent at any rate. However I thought it worth the $250 investment to be more certain the naughty critters didn't suffer more than necessary.

429 posted on 03/27/2002 3:58:09 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Neil E. Wright, Cyrano, Centurion2000
Ping #427, #428, #429
430 posted on 03/27/2002 4:15:41 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Terriergal
Think I'll go pop some innocent squirrels to vent my frustration in dealing with someone of such supreme ignorance. I just can't control myself any longer. Bye bye squirrels, you have Sungirl to thank for it. I might even try and just cripple one so my dog can have the thrill of finishing it off. (He's a little slow, so a fully intact squirrel would be too hard for him to catch...)

I can't top this....thank you.

431 posted on 03/27/2002 4:27:55 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
I made all my points... You made no points.

hunters thrill kill Still no explanation to what 'thrill kill'means?

teach and don't care if there kids thrill kill do what?

kill enangered species What endangered species did I kill?

drink while shooting What was I drinking?

lie about quotas caught When?

trespass When and on who's property?

have this uncontrolled urge to kill You know my urges?

feel guilty sometimes when they kill Now you're being rediculous. You proved how I felt?

and can't argue without support I'm doing better than you, take a look at your scorecard.

Either I'm going blind or I'm as big a blithering idiot as everyone here thinks you are. Again, I cannot find any proof of any of the above. You are broad-brushing, and your failure to address any of the perfectly valid points that I have made indicates that it may be time to stop handling you with kid gloves.

Admit that you don't know any of us and that you are entirely in the wrong to make accusations against us.

Admit that you are not a wildlife biologist and are not involved in wildlife management or conservation, which many of us are.

Admit that you have no valid points and that your only arument is some emotional recollection of Fifi getting shot because you were an irresponsible pet owner engaged in an illegal activity.

Admit that you know nothing about hunting or hunters and you're creating a ficticious group of ravenous pigs on whom to blame the death of your furry friend to avoid taking responsibility for it's death.

Admit that it is you who are engaging in illegal taking of game by failing to report illegal and unethical behavior.

Then post an apology. It's the least you could do after slandering us.

434 posted on 03/27/2002 4:43:19 PM PST by Gianni
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To: Gianni
LOL! I stand by everything....it's not my fault you can't read, interpret and understand simple words. You should be a comedian.
435 posted on 03/27/2002 4:48:14 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
hunters thrill kill (kill another animal out of boredom or for the hell of it)...teach and don't care if there kids thrill kill.....kill endangered species.....drink while shooting.......lie about quotas caught......trespass.....

Prove I've done any of the above. You post as if all or even a majority of hunters act this way.


Your assumption that all hunters are something less desirable, is nothing more than a stereotype created by extremely ignorant people. Most likely, based on the acts of a few criminals. Your M.O. is more like that of Sarah Brady than not.

Sungirl, given your level of bigotry displayed on this forum, I hope I never have to witness your outsider's view of blacks, hispanics, or different faiths than that of your own.
If you have a shred of consistency in your small mind, you'd certainly lower yourself to level not unlike the KKK, Nazis, or groups basing hatred on their own ignorance of other peoples.

I'm asking you to prove I have engaged in the activities you have accused me of for simply being a hunter. [Sorry to burst your bubble, but generalizations, assumptions, or other forms of bigotry simply will not suffice.]

Also, I ask that you do not FReepmail me. I do not appreciate how you post the same unproven drivel about an entire group of people in post after post then send it to me as part of an on-topic message where nobody else may see it. I prefer public debate for all to witness, and am not afraid or ashamed of who or what I am. What I did with your message was an excellent example of good character, I didn't hide my message.
Why did you hide?

I will post any FReepmail I receive to a thread as I see fit.

436 posted on 03/27/2002 6:49:25 PM PST by Gun142
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To: Sungirl
You seem to be short on numerous facts!

Spermaceti is a(high grade oil}found in a large reservoir in the sperm whales head that was once erroneously thought to be part of the whales reproductive system.

Spermaceti,not whale sperm,is sometimes used in lipstick.

Nevertheless,be sure to use whatever trips your trigger.

437 posted on 03/28/2002 12:22:53 AM PST by Free Trapper
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To: Gun142
WOw....do you sound guilty about something.

Oh...and please don't call me a racist. Thanks....

438 posted on 03/28/2002 3:48:03 AM PST by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
WOw....do you sound guilty about something.

Wow.... you obviously can't understand plain english. I've spilled personal info about myself on the public forum because I am not ashamed of myself.

What is it that I'm guilty of, Sungirl?
I've asked you several times, but you have failed to answer. When will you address the points of my post?
You know, debate with substance?

I didn't call you a racist, you have displayed the pattern of one. Please read more closely before you post.

439 posted on 03/28/2002 4:45:28 AM PST by Gun142
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To: Sungirl;Gun142;Free Trapper;Terriergal
I have read everything that you have posted. Where do you offer proof that all hunters do any of the following:

Drink while hunting?

Ignore bag limits?

Take an endangered animal?

Kill animals simply for fun?

Furthermore, where have you advanced proof that:

Animals are harmless?

You were mysteriously in the right in letting your cat roam?

Can someone who has been watching these posts point me to the one where SunGirl presents the reasoned argument against me or anyone who has come forward to defend hunting?

Why do you avoid addressing any of my posts? You insist that you stand by everything but have said nothing. You have put forth an indefensible(sp?) argument, and then failed to support it when asked to.

I, unlike Gun142, have taught several kids to hunt. I have taught many more to fish. It is a clean, responsible activity that can keep a kid out of a lot of trouble. It teaches respect for wildlife. It teaches respect for firearms. It teaches thousands of lessons that you can't learn anywhere else - as you are living proof of.

You have made the accusation that because I hunt, I am unethical, and a likely criminal. I ask you, where is your argument that hunting is unethical? I have searched through the posts again and have found no argument to support your conclusion. If you consider the rediculous stories that you have posted an argument, then I feel pity for you. By your twisted logic, driving a car is morally wrong (some if not most people intentionally speed), drinking a beer is morally wrong (as some purposely drink to excess), going to church is morally wrong (as some bomb abortion clinics and crash planes into commercial buildings).

I have admitted that I think killing strays is a good thing. I have also provided evidence that strays are harmful and that pet owners who let their pets run loose are criminally at fault for damages to both person and property. If you do not believe this, then a web search will probably turn up some statistics.

If you can only gin up enough brain power to answer one question, then make it this one:

How can you avoid culpability in the death of your cat when it is you who was admittedly in the wrong?

440 posted on 03/28/2002 5:48:43 AM PST by Gianni
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