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Bill would prevent sharing of digital music, video
USA Today ^ | March 22, 2002 | Reuters

Posted on 03/22/2002 10:52:18 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:39:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Bubba_Leroy
You can make a law against anything. Let's seem them enforce it.
61 posted on 03/22/2002 12:27:30 PM PST by Lost Highway
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To: bloodmeridian
Didn't I say that?
62 posted on 03/22/2002 12:27:34 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: In veno, veritas
So, under this bill, would I not be allowed to watch a TV show I recorded for not being home?

No, the networks are using civil lawsuits to challenge the legality of television program time-shifting. If those fail then they will likely seek legislative action.
63 posted on 03/22/2002 12:27:46 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: Harrison Bergeron
Steppenwolf never sounded better

Trying to take that seriously...

A lot of music was mixed to sound good on table radios and factory car radios. Sometimes the fm/cd mix just sounds overly symphonic and dry white wine with quiche.

64 posted on 03/22/2002 12:33:57 PM PST by js1138
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To: Mr. Thorne
No one every concurred with you before?
65 posted on 03/22/2002 12:40:29 PM PST by bloodmeridian
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To: js1138
"A lot of music was mixed to sound good on table radios and factory car radios."

And some was mixed to sound good to thirteen year old boys who were hearing it from inside a closet where they were making out with their steady girlfriend...

Like I said, Steppenwolf never sounded better.

66 posted on 03/22/2002 12:40:43 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Bubba_Leroy
I'd love to see the encryption standard that they will come up with that can not be broken or circumvented. As soon as they put the decryption key on a "legal" play device, some one is going to swipe the chip and decoompile and decode the encryption and then you're back to step one. After all, though, half these old bastards can't even figure out email, but they'll make silly laws on tech.
67 posted on 03/22/2002 12:41:21 PM PST by Stavka2
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To: Bella_Bru
The worst part is that to go through the whole creation to bringing to market process on a CD is 50 cents. Oh, but they tried this crap with tapes too.
68 posted on 03/22/2002 12:43:24 PM PST by Stavka2
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To: Dimensio
So will a whole new bureocracy have to be created? The DVD player cops with broad search powers?
69 posted on 03/22/2002 12:44:17 PM PST by Stavka2
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To: Bubba_Leroy
The anti-ripping thingie must be a piece of hardware with components manufactured in every congressional district, and every computer sold in America must have one.
70 posted on 03/22/2002 12:47:04 PM PST by Thud
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"There's way toooooo much copyin' goin' on out dere." Sen. Foghorn Leghorn said; or, that's what he meant to say.
71 posted on 03/22/2002 12:54:24 PM PST by bigdog
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To: Diverdogz
try WinMx again, but read through http://www.trippymx.co.uk/ first. You can change your server list to allow many more popular servers and get thousands of songs for your queries.
72 posted on 03/22/2002 1:04:33 PM PST by Snerdley
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To: bloodmeridian
Not often...
73 posted on 03/22/2002 1:04:45 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: Mr. Thorne
Mark this date, then.
74 posted on 03/22/2002 1:07:19 PM PST by bloodmeridian
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To: js1138
I'm paranoid, but not that paranoid. You are suggesting that home recording would be impossible

There is simply NO way to protect audio/video content using hardware/software as long as the system allows ANY homemade content to be played... If any format is left open enough so that joe sixpack can record videos of the wife and kiddies and play that content on any computer then all bootlegs will be processed to mimic that format.

They want the hardware controls to be in the video and audio hardware.... they want to engineer motherboards that will only work with secure add on cards. The cards won't allow a data stream to be played unless it is digitally signed by a recognized authority.. Your home content will never play on this sort of system... if it did then the protection system would be fatally flawed.

And yes... hollyweird is crazy enough to try and get this sort of police state legislation passed... and yes the government and the people are stoopid enough to let them get away with it.... just remember that the gov once passed prohibition!

We may be looking at computers that have restricted ports,drives,i/o cards,mobos,op-systems... :-(

75 posted on 03/22/2002 1:14:34 PM PST by Bobalu
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To: bloodmeridian
I'm planning a celebration. I faced the choice of cookies or donuts, and then I thought of the commercial: "A cookie is just a cookie, but a donut is sugar and cake, deep fried," so naturally, I chose donuts.

What? That's not the commercial?

Huh.

Oh. Well, it oughtta be!

Donuts forever!

76 posted on 03/22/2002 1:19:42 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: Bobalu
On the other hand, current systems will be operable for 5-10 years. And the black market will be terrific.

Intel is opposed because they see their upgrade market going the way of DAT.

If the law is passed there will be a surge in buying old equipment, hoarding, followed by massive resistance to new products.

77 posted on 03/22/2002 1:23:38 PM PST by js1138
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To: Stavka2
So will a whole new bureocracy have to be created? The DVD player cops with broad search powers?

Do remember that the RIAA wanted a rider to the PATRIOT act that would specifically allow computer security break-ins if committed by "copyright holders". In other words the RIAA wanted the government to allow them to break into private computers in search of copyright violations.
78 posted on 03/22/2002 1:39:37 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: Bubba_Leroy; all
This bill is not about MP3s. It's about banning technology and trying to force everyone back to the 20'th Century. If that bill is passed into law, EVERY computer owner in this country (you, me, the person next door) would become outlaws. Also, it would send the economy into a depression and piss off nearly the entire population.

That is how WARS are started.

79 posted on 03/22/2002 1:45:33 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Bubba_Leroy
ANYTHING that would prevent consumers from taking THEIR PERSONAL SELECTIONS OF PREFERRED SONGS ETC. OFF A SOLD COLLECTION and THEN making their own personally preferred collection or even a diversity of personal use collections--strikes me as unfair, stupid and a huge ripoff. I HOPE SOMEHOW, WE CAN PREVENT SUCH AN END RESULT.
80 posted on 03/22/2002 1:54:02 PM PST by Quix
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