Posted on 03/22/2002 1:51:37 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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You libertine loons are so predictable.
See how Pat twists the truth to suit his anti-Semitic purposes.
A.Israel did not merely annex Arab lands. It won the territory it occupies by conquest in wars started by the Arabs who vastly outmanned tiny Israel.
B. Neither did Israel dispossess the palistian people. Most Paletstininans living in refugee camps...known everywhere else in the world as cities and towns (granted they're filthy and squalid, but look who lives there, they created those conditions) are there because they or their parents abandonned Israel prior to the 1967 war, hoping to fight alongside their Arab brothers and drive Israel into the sea. Only it didn't work out that way and the palis got exactly what they deserved.
C.And America's reputation in the Arab world is what it is because America is America. Wealthy, powerful, technologically advanced and NOT ISLAMIC!
Man, slightly off the subject, but you've just impeached old Sick Willie Clitoon and his bully thugs as Leninists.
Works for me.
I said to my wife this week, when the Presidents numbers start to fall it will be his own party deserting him first.
Then I'm afraid you don't know Pat very well. And yes, alot of Republicans are pulling on W, because he lied to us and betrayed our trust. I for one would never have supported him had I known he'd sign CFR, and he specifically said several times that he would veto it. I'd never have voted for him if I'd known he planned on selling out honest American citizens by giving amnesty to illegals. I'd never have voted for him had I known he'd support vastly expanding federal spending for education...giddily swooning over Ted Kennedy like a lovesick schoolgirl!
Don't get me wrong...I am still glad that he's leading the war effort and not Gore...but other than the war W. is a terrible disappointment.
I bet Pat still misses Nixon: nothing like those good times when they could kick those Jooos around...
Bibi's Boys have seized upon Sept. 11 as their last, best hope to morph America's war into Israel's war. Plausible to a conspiracy theorist like Buchanan.
Another, simpler explanantion is of course, that these people hope that rest of America will finally understand what they themselves had been saying for years.
They look with anticipation to what Norman Podhoretz calls "World War IV," Is Partick Buchanan sane?
Het tell us here that the supporters of Israel want a world war. I am confident that Patrick Buchanan, who endows us so richly with books on the history of mankind, knows full well Hitler's claim that "the Jews conspired to start both Word Wars. You are in good company, Pat.
"America's fate and Israel's fate are one and the same," proclaims Bennett. But how can this be? Between 1776 and 1948, America grew from 13 rural colonies on the seaboard of North America into the greatest economic and military power Mr. Buchanan: fate is about the future, not the past.
Bennet does not say, "Israel and America have been through a lot together." He expresses instead an opinion as to what the future holds for our country and Israel. You may disagree with that opinion, but fate, or destinity address the future, not the past.
Perhaps, if you were not so busy writing so much, Mr. Buchanan, you would learn to read with comprehension?
mental clarity is also in order here... its annexations of Arab land, Which lands, Mr. Buchanan?
its dispossession of the Palestinian people, Are you not aware that they have fled during an attack on Israel? Who has disposessed whom?
and its denial of their right to a homeland and state of their own on land their fathers farmed for a thousand years are a principal cause of this war and a primary reason why America's reputation has been ravaged Are you talking about American Indians? Or Mexicans from whom our present Southwest was taken? Every one of these words seems to apply.
For your clarification, Mr. Buchanan: as was reposted here just a few days ago, 97% of land was owned by the Brits. Mr. Buchanan hectors on the lessons of history, which he appears to jave taken alone. It is interesting to observe a "historian" to make an error in every sentence he utters.
In 1991, he gave Israel Patriot missile batteries, $5 billion in aid and $10 billion in loan guarantees, then smashed Israel's mortal enemy, Iraq, asking only that America be allowed to do it ourselves. To Bennett, this translates into "Jewish blood is cheap." No, not to Bennet, but to the Arab world --- and that is what Bennet said. Once again you put words into Mr. Bennett's mouth.
"Israeli control of the West Bank and Gaza is not the problem for the Arabs. Democracy is the problem," writes Bennett. But is Bennett saying that if Israel became a dictatorship, she would be welcome in the Middle East? This is nonsense. Of course, it is, and it exists only in your head, Mr. Buchanan. Bennett is saying an often-repeated thought here that, for the Arab rulers Israel is a convenient scapegoat that diverts attention from their own social problems. The mass hysteria and disinformation are also effective because Arabs lack democracy.
But if the president does, as he must, he must also expect more of the same from Bibi's Boys. What a language! I guess, Pat is getting more and more desparate every day: it is getting hard for him to keep his cover up.
Before yu decide to flame me on that, please show me one positive word he ever said about the success of immigration of any group other than White and Christian (he would gladly say also Protestant but, alas, he is Catholic himself).
Oh, this is absolutely beautiful! That is exactly right, with mathematical precision.
Buchanan will cut out territory from this country; some people, who have built and inhabit this land; ignore whole periods of its history --- he will cut out everything until he alone remains. "And that is America," he then proudly says.
Thanks again for your post.
I don't follow Pat's antics, so this is the first I heard of it.
If there's evidence out there to the contrary, I haven't seen it. Most of the time, he is reasonably careful, although you will find that in practically every writing of his he falsifies history. The quantity of the blatant falsehoods in this latest article is rather rare (hundreds of civilians plowed over by tanks ---- even Palestinians haven't come up with that).
However, if you observe how he falsifies history it is always in favor of white Christians. That is, for as long as we discuss distant history --- in Europe, say. Once we move close to home, both in time and place, Hispanics immediately fall off his boat: they are no longer of European heritage and no longer Christian enough. They are a culture that "we have difficulty assimilating." Apparently, the genes of Hispanics mutated terribly in the last few hundred years. Or, is it the mixture of blood?.. There you go. Indian blood must explain why Hispanics --- arrivals from the Iberian Peninsula, from the Roman Hispaniae --- are no longer sufficiently European.
Nor will he will ever say a word about the enormous assimilation success of Jewish immigration in the beginning of the XX century. These people with no education, poor and often with poor hygiene, within ONE generation entered the Ivy League schools in quantities that made those universities address the "Jewish problem." Many people don't know but it is then that the "diversity of student body" was instituted as a goal: on scores alone, Jewish applicants were beating everybody.
The same success story repeats itself now, word for word, with Americans of Oriental origin: on the scores alone, it is they who beat everybody now.
Has Buchanan said anything positive EVER about any of these success stories, any aspect at all?
Well, perhaps, I am giving examples that are far from Christianity that is dear to him. OK, how about Italian Americans? These people, just like Pat's parents were for centuries accused of being more loyal to the Pope than to America --- precisely the accusation that Pat now levels against American Jews whom he suspects of being more loyal to Israel than to this country. It is only recently, during the WWII, that bravery of Italian and Irish Americans has put these idiotic accusations to rest.
In other words, every single wave of immigration met with the same distrust and initial difficulties. What is the group that we did not have difficulties assimilating?
Please ask yourself this: do you believe that Pat, who in contrast to you and me has spent considerable time researching history, does not know these facts? I do not; I do think that he knows full well the things I just mentioned and a lot more. Why is it, then, that these positive facts never show up in his speech or writing?
One need not exhibit his prejudice by advancing negative falsehoods: to affect the balance in the same direction, he can also omit positive truth.
This is precisely what Pat has been mostly doing thus far: "accidentally" omitting positive aspect of people and groups that Pat himself does not like. Lately, as the posted article also indicates, he has become more desperate and careless, so more of the negative things and name-calling show up. "Amen corner," "Bibi's boys," etc.
Interestingly how quickly he forgot the prejudice leveled at him in his childhood. I will end with a thought that, in contrast to everything else I wrote thus far, is a speculation. I suspect lately that Pat is actually a deep-seated wannabe: he always wanted to be accepted by the main establishment, by the Protestants. You know how some people are more Catholic than the Pope is? I think Pat has become more Protestant than the Earl of Salisbury.
But to automatically brand him as an anti-semite?
I just don't think there is any supporting evidence for this accusation.
And no one thus far has anything more than a "feeling" that he's anti-semetic.
I just don't see the justification for this label.
It IS getting somewhat redundant and stale isn't it.
That's pure BS.
precisely the accusation that Pat now levels against American Jews whom he suspects of being more loyal to Israel than to this country. It is only recently, during the WWII, that bravery of Italian and Irish Americans has put these idiotic accusations to rest.
I don't think anyone can dispute that. Many Jews are more loyal to Israel than America. Witness the constant drumbeat to release Jonathan Pollard a man who cost the lives of several American operatives and sold info to the Soviet Union.
But you believe that garbage --- it's all yours.
Surprised? Do you really want me to call you a Super Sheeple, comrade?
Say it ain't so, comrade.
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