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State Sponsored Terrorism? (OKC Bombing and 9/11/02 Attack Suspects Connected by FBI)
Fox News ^ | March 20, 2002 | John Gibson

Posted on 03/21/2002 1:17:24 PM PST by OKCSubmariner

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:32:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I attended the execution of Tim McVeigh and I had no doubt it was the right thing to do

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 911attacks; okcbombing
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To: rdavis84
Chocolate. That's a wonderful idea!

He bought me a new truck today. Maybe I should get cranky more often. :)

61 posted on 03/22/2002 5:26:38 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: takenoprisoner
He looked me straight in the eye and said, "you just believe that you elect your presidents."

Please click on my name and look at my listed links on vote fraud.

62 posted on 03/22/2002 6:43:01 PM PST by jedediah smith
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To: Nita Nupress; rdavis84; mancini
Besides the fact that American-born citizens are willing to sell out their own country (as evidenced by the recent Hansen spy case), there are plenty of foreigners in the intelligence community who are doing likewise. Remember, the government has to fill those racial quotas.
63 posted on 03/22/2002 6:55:24 PM PST by jedediah smith
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To: jedediah smith
... there are plenty of foreigners in the intelligence community who are doing likewise. Remember, the government has to fill those racial quotas.

What a frightening thought. And what a mess to clean up.

64 posted on 03/22/2002 8:49:23 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress; okcsubmariner;rdavis84;lentulusgracchus; eno;wm bach;fred mertz
Nita's post is a very cogent argument in support of sticking to the facts. But I had some thoughts/questions today I wanted to toss out for reaction.

1. As I (sort of) pointed out in an earlier post, you don't have to be a Ruby Ridge, Flight 800, Waco, Bilderburger, NWO "true believer" to be labeled a nut. All you have to suggest is that you're not quite convinced of the government's story on the OKC bombing, and that you'd like to see a more thorough investigation. This, despite the poll last year prior to McVeigh's execution that most people in the U.S. believe there were additional people responsible who have not yet been identified/arrested.

2. RE: NWO.

Did anybody out there ever read Taylor Caldwell's novels? Written before the term "New World Order" became part of the popular lexicon, she suggested that only a VERY few (fewer than the reputed "300")individuals had significant impact on the direction of world events, and, that rather than specifically ordering events (like WTC, OKC, war with Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.), they used their money to create certain conditions that would make certain events, like wars, likely to occur. In some of the books, these "evil plans" did not come to the desired fruition, because of individual human goodness.

As much as I like George W., I had a strong feeling about six months or so before the 2000 election that somebody out there wanted him elected president REALLY badly, and I wondered whether a war was in the offing....

3. I mention all this because perhaps the so-called "new world order" is nothing more than a far-flung group of people (not terribly unlike FReepers, at least in this respect, or the renowned and much-maligned VRWC) who have diverse backgrounds but the same general goals, as mentioned on an earlier post in this thread.

For example, consider this: We already know that Al-Quaeda is a "loosely-based, non-centralized" group, in the words of GWB.

If you recall, in the first days after September 11, Osama Bin Laden denied responsibility, saying this was the work of an "individual", implying that he knew about it and possibly funded it, but didn't come up with the idea himself and didn't organize it or order it.

As far as we know, this is the truth. That doesn't mean he isn't responsible, of course, in light of the fact that his organization endorsed and likely funded the terrorists. But here's my point.

We know that part of the reason Mohammed Atta brought down the Trade Center was because he hated Western architecture, something he considered to be a symbol of the Western influence on his homeland, which he considered detestable.

We also know that part of the reason McVeigh brought down the Murrah building, or played a role in it, was because he considered it a symbol of the United States government and its role in atrocities like Waco.

Isn't there some sort of parallel in these two extremely evil acts? It seems to me that rather than concentrating on theories that lead in diverse directions, as Nita suggests, we ought to focus on the common threads. And they are definitely out there.

P.S. Could someone please explain in more detail about the Fox News reporter who claimed to discredit Paul Bedard's column last fall? Did she simply quote him, or was there an actual sound bite?

65 posted on 03/22/2002 9:29:33 PM PST by glorygirl
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To: Nita Nupress
I agree with you that the explanation is almost certainly simpler than an "NWO conspiracy." It probably goes back to simple ass coverage for bad political decisions and botched implementations of investigations and corruption, with maybe some low-level treason by agents corrupted and/or turned thrown in.

Yes Bill Clinton is a Fabian Socialist, but he did not have an instant cabal throughout government to call on. He just took advantage of chaos, corruption, and fellow travelers where he found these tools.

66 posted on 03/23/2002 3:40:54 AM PST by eno_
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To: Fred Mertz; rdavis84; mancini
I wish NDCORUP was still with us.

Fred, Fred...take two aspirin, drink plenty of liquids, get some rest, and call me tomorrow if this condition persists.

67 posted on 03/23/2002 5:54:41 AM PST by thinden
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To: thinden
I never did like that guy.

ndcorup, that is. Fred's O.K. but just barely.

68 posted on 03/23/2002 6:02:03 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
Fred's O.K. but just barely.

I'm worried about Fred. he seems like he's a little tetshed.

69 posted on 03/23/2002 6:23:00 AM PST by thinden
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To: thinden
"I'm worried about Fred. he seems like he's a little tetshed."

Ever notice how Easy it is for some of us to spot them? There's a guy in a cell right down from mine that's just like Fred!

70 posted on 03/23/2002 6:29:25 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: Nita Nupress
Oh how I long for the "Trainne" thds.

Please Nita, put your political biasses aside and start a new series for Dubya. By the time we finish taking over every Arab country I will have expected you to see the light. ;)

( I couldn't stand NDCORUP comments. Wata woose.)

71 posted on 03/23/2002 8:51:04 AM PST by It'salmosttolate
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To: glorygirl
Good comments, glorygirl.
72 posted on 03/23/2002 9:23:56 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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