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To: LS;CaptBlack
You seem to think that we who are leaving the Bush camp are doing so over this one issue. There is a pattern that has emerged and it's not pretty. CFR is a straw and for many the last straw.

For me the last straw was watching my President on TV this morning telling the press that he wanted to get all those workers south of the border who wanted work, he wanted to get them together with employers here. I've had it. Illegal immigration is something that affects me in my everyday life. It's now personal. More than 80% of Americans feel similarly.

I was willing to bury my resentment over the federalization of airport security, and I was willing to bury my resentment over the education bill. I bought all the explanations based on smart politicking, compromising and outfoxing. I knew that CFR was important to understand the implications of and for our President to make a case for. But our President barely said a thing about it. This is a nightmare.

But I was left feeling I had woke up to a bad dream this morning. I looked at the screen with my beloved President speaking out against what %80 of his people want, secure borders and an end to this influx of unassimilatable culture which threatens to supplant our own. I looked at my beloved President and saw a man who is controlled and acts against the will of the people. I was in denial and now I am crestfallen. I wish I would wake up and it would all be a bad dream, but it's real.

Our President has not made the case to the American people as is his duty to do.

127 posted on 03/21/2002 9:53:14 AM PST by Hostage
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To: Hostage
As one who had immense pride and a huge feeling of relief when Mr. Bush was inaugurated, I appreciate your view on 'those of us drifting from the Bush camp' not over CFR alone but as the final straw. For me, it crosses the line. I'm used to DemoRats destroying the Constitution in little pieces but to have a Republican President and this one, in particular, help them destroy free political speech is simply far too much. It is sad and it is despicable.
132 posted on 03/21/2002 10:08:23 AM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Hostage
I don't know where you get this "80%" figure, but it dang sure isn't in any reliable poll or specifically addressed to this amnesty plan. SURE, 80% of the people are "for" controlled borders, like 80% are "for" social security and "for" tax cuts and "for" whatever else you throw out, as long as the questions are sufficiently vague.

You can string together all you want, and I can string together the many executive orders where Bush has done MORE TO STOP ABORTION than any other president (including Reagan) since Roe v. Wade; he has gotten passed (despite not even having the Senate and having a slim majority in the House) the first tax cut in 15 years (and Reagan had both the Senate and a large majority of GOP/Blue Dogs in the House to work with); he has successfully pushed through missile defense so far; and he has led (the major point) a war on terror that most other presidents simply would not have undertaken.

Although I wouldn't agree with whatever he TRIED to do, how much "domestic" stuff do you think FDR accomplished during WW II? Not much. Why? Because there was something else that was top priority.

And I know this isn't the ONLY issue, and that "amnesty" (with which I also disagree) is a biggie. But polls have repeatedly shown that interest in immigration as an issue is extremely thin. (Hate to burst your balloon). It is important in a few states, and virtually irrelevant to most people where I live, in Ohio, or in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and so on. And Bush already WON Texas, one of the top two "immigration" states out there.

But your comments are interesting, in that Ms. Antifeminazi criticizes me for saying that Freepers will stay home on voting day (she says they won't) and you are confirming that they will.

168 posted on 03/21/2002 2:25:10 PM PST by LS
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