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Why, republican sister, you are stuck in the vicious dilemma that has plagued our nation since 1789. Hamilton et al wanted less power among the masses, for the common people were considered to be ignorant and untrustworthy. Jefferson and crew believed that true republicanism must depend on the virtuous populace. Without virtue, the republic would not stand. Although Jefferson won a victory in 1800, it was only an illusion. Centralized government took a turn for the larger and, what most of us freepers would say the worse, in 1861. It is a monster that will not stop growing.

Jefferson was right, and Jefferson was wrong. The modern republican ideologists don't believe that a virtuous populace is necessary to maintain a republic. But our virtue is fading, and so is our republic. So you be the judge.

We can protest, and contact our government officials, and act to our heart's desire, but the only good it will do is to possibly retard the destruction of our great republican experiment.

Bill and Hillary will be a historical asterisk. They're really not that important.

Well I guess, republican sister, we should all just sit on our conservative butts, then, and let the dems trample on any little bit of freedom we have left. If we're going down, LET'S REALLY CRASH AND BURN!

It seems a bit ridiculous to me to hold the idea that "nothing will help, and nothing will change". Maybe you're right, but I'd rather TRY to see some change, some results, some truth, some justice. (Idealist? maybe.) If we just give up and completely let them have their way, we are no better than the corruptors, are we? We are drones and enablers. I am neither, and I'll not just watch as they ruin our country, our future, and the future of our children, sis. We have to keep trying. It's too important to give up.

Bill and Hillary will be a historical asterisk. They're really not that important.

I disagree. Depending on the extent to which the first bastard sold us out to China (and I believe he gave them enough to take us out) history has yet to determine how important they will be to our country's history.