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To: BeAChooser
If you seriously believe that the GOP, as an organization, is innocuous, then I must say that I long for your idealism. They are seized with what you and I, John Q., would label corruption, but what they call "politics." It's the game that is corrupt, and we play just as hard as they.

I am not a "move-onner," just a disillusioned believer in the ideology that used to be. More of a realist. I used to hold that we would either see reform or the beginnings of a new slippery slope to a civil war in order that our republican principles be wrested from the powers-that-be. I now understand that, in order for that to occur, there must be a widespread perception that we HAVE NO POLITICAL CHOICE. The results of the 2000 election blew my theory to heck. A 50/50 split (whether it was tampered with or not) is perceived, because that's the spin given us by politicians and the media.

People will not act if they do not feel a sense of desperation, and that is exactly what our nation lacks. They don't perceive an assault on their liberties, so they remain unconcerned in their loungers, watching CNN.

Election tampering is not a new practice. I, too, am disgusted by the failure of the GOP to look into the glaring irregularities of the 2000 election and the redistricting happening nation-wide. To me, their failure to follow up on election fraud is further proof that the GOP is just as corrupt as the DNC, or incompetent, and I would bet on the former.

Americans will get what they deserve. They want democracy? They practice it by sitting on their behinds, not caring about what goes on in the state and national capitals, and then going out and voting based on what the media tells them, rather than on sound logic. They vote with their hearts, not their heads. That will be the death of America.

49 posted on 03/21/2002 8:38:19 AM PST by ivoteright
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To: ivoteright, Mia T
Mia T...while aesthetically pleasing, the posts to which you have treated us make download time lengthy for those of us without DSL. This is my kind request that you refrain from beauty and give us "JUST THE FACTS, JACK."

ivoteright--You're on, you're right. Why, though, should all Americans suffer from the ignorance and laziness of a few...(or shall I say 50% at least.) Those of us who are informed and somewhat intelligent should be making calls, writing letters, visiting our reps in person, becoming activists.
We may not get the justice we deserve with the clintons, but we can try (at least try) to prevent and prosecute those criminals that come in the future. (And maybe we can catch Hitlary in the act in office...of course, she has too many people by the balls to actually have any charges brought against her...) It's a mad circle.

50 posted on 03/21/2002 9:02:55 AM PST by I'm ALL Right!
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To: ivoteright
If you seriously believe that the GOP, as an organization, is innocuous,

I'm not that naive. I just hope that it is still possible to move them in the right direction. I know the democRATS are now beyond that. I have no doubt that highly placed members of that party KILLED other members of their own party (Brown and Foster) rather than let what they knew about the crimes being committed come out. Perhaps I hope in vain that the Republicans are less corrupt. I think the only proof of that will be if they investigate and prosecute the crimes the democRATS committed, even if it means some of their own members get burned in the process. I know this ... fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. If Bush administration does NOTHING (as they have so far) about the very serious crimes committed by the democRATS the last 9 years, then I won't be voting for a Republican again. I will listen to my conscience and vote for a 3rd party candidate, instead, to send a message.

60 posted on 03/21/2002 12:17:53 PM PST by BeAChooser
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