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To: Campion
JESUS said it flows from what you DO, not from an organization. By their fruits you WILL KNOW them. Of course, what Jesus said matters little here. Right?

There are folks that worship an invisible Christ, and those that worship visible, man-made, unbiblical religious structures and institutions.

Institutions fail, men fall, as do the organizations that hire them for pay. Acting LIKE Jesus, guarantees moral authority. NOT acting like him, diminishes it, regardless of the particular and peculiar claims of verity and truth, the organization one is a member of makes.

I strongly support YOUR right to believe it your way. I also strongly disagree with the RC position on their own "moral authority" in this matter. Pedophiles do NOT represent Christ. Neither do organizations that provide them with cover and employment. THAT is what I believe.

Taking the body of Christ from the hands of a man who, moments before has been fondling the unmentionable aspects of an altar boy's privates... is blasphemous to some of us.

80 posted on 03/20/2002 1:56:17 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
JESUS said it flows from what you DO, not from an organization. By their fruits you WILL KNOW them.

That would be the same Jesus who pointed to the Pharisees and said "Obey their teaching, because they sit on Moses' seat, but do not follow their example"? And "by their fruits you will know them" tells you nothing about where moral authority comes from, but about how to tell a false prophet, of whom you are to beware, from a true one. I repeat: moral authority comes ultimately from God, not from any human's deeds. How you recognize that authority is a different question.

Of course, what Jesus said matters little here. Right?

Wrong. Just be sure you consider everything that Jesus said.

There are folks that worship an invisible Christ, and those that worship visible, man-made, unbiblical religious structures and institutions.

And then there are folks who make uncharitable accusations against others on the Internet. "Judge not, lest ye be judged" is in the same chapter, of the same book, in the same Bible as "you will know them by their fruits". Why do you follow one, but not the other?

Pedophiles do NOT represent Christ.

Tell me, at what point during his affair with Bath-Sheba did David cease to be the King of Israel?

Taking the body of Christ from the hands of a man who, moments before has been fondling the unmentionable aspects of an altar boy's privates... is blasphemous to some of us

I'd venture to say that it's blasphemous to all of us, and that is as it should be. However, the sacrament remains what it is because it is what it is by the power and grace of God, not by the virtue of the priest.

82 posted on 03/20/2002 2:11:00 PM PST by Campion
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