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To: BibChr
It seems clear from scripture that Jesus desired all to be one with the Father. Despite the fact that half of the Catholics in America have no clue about what Catholicism is and half of them don't like a lot of the "hard teachings" there is a repository of faith whereby we can know who is in error. The Church is being infiltrated by marxists,communists,liberals and modernists who have used various tools and hot button issues to keep the faithful in turmoil.All of these involve deceit. Jesus is clear that Satan is the father of lies,and therefore to discern Satanic influence whether supernatural or accomplished by his able troops here on earth,it is imperative to have a place to go to establish what Christ said and how it has been carried down through the centuries. That is why Christ established a Church.

I believe many non-Catholics are better Christians than many Catholics,nonetheless if the Catholic Church is destroyed in Western Civilization,all of Christendom along with civilization as we know it will disappear. While it will always be somewhere I don't think any one can claim they are doing God's will if we who believe in Jesus attack each other.

If you notice there are some threads here on FR that go on and on,the participants all belong to one of several breakaway new churches,relatively speaking,of an original mid sized denomination and they can argue and debate on ad infinitum. I think an open mind and prayer and study will lead us to truth.

66 posted on 03/20/2002 12:20:16 PM PST by saradippity
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To: saradippity
Thank you very much for your thoughtful answer!

It still leaves the question: but where is that Church, if that's the point? The RC's argument is that a human organization must be identifiable as the sect Christ founded. He points to the RCC — again leaving me asking, "Where? What part of it?"

The Biblical Christian's answer is that God's self-revelation is one and united and unchanging. He points to the Bible.

I guess one of the points I'm making is that it's clear from many conversations that RCs are untroubled in the same head saying, "The RCC is united, in spite of millions of warring and sinning factions, so it must be Christ's organization" AND "Protestantism is hopelessly divided into millions of warring and sinning factions, so it cannot be Christ's organization."

My answer would be to point to neither.

Again, sincere thanks for a serious response.

Dan

70 posted on 03/20/2002 12:46:56 PM PST by BibChr
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