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Senate urged to grant amnesty
Washington Times ^ | 3/20/02 | Bill Sammon and Audrey Hudson

Posted on 03/19/2002 9:56:27 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:38:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Bush yesterday called on the Senate to pass a bill that would grant amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens in time for his trip to Mexico tomorrow.

The Senate's top Democrat, however, said he was not planning for a vote on the border-security measure until next month.


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To: PRND21
Funny, I spoke right from the article posted. There's a big difference between confused and not buying the BS!
21 posted on 03/19/2002 11:40:56 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: stimulate
I'm sick of the kind of compassion that comes with giving people who break the law special treatment. Now there's compassion NONE of us want.
22 posted on 03/19/2002 11:41:00 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: nunya bidness
Just on the outside.

'Arab terrorists' crossing border: Middle Eastern illegals find easy entrance into U.S. from Mexico

America's Most Wanted

24 posted on 03/20/2002 12:04:48 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: over3Owithabrain
Exactly. I am extremely disppointed in Bush--pushing for something that surely would make the terrorists, drug dealers and other criminals happy.

There is no legitimate reason to give amnesty for a whopping 200,000 of these illegals. And it won't stop here. Then there will be another group of law-brakers who want amnesty.

This all promotes the idea that some people don't need to follow the law, that laws are made to be broken.

25 posted on 03/20/2002 3:22:11 AM PST by Dante3
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To: over3Owithabrain
Exactly. I am extremely disppointed in Bush--pushing for something that surely would make the terrorists, drug dealers and other criminals happy.

There is no legitimate reason to give amnesty for a whopping 200,000 of these illegals. And it won't stop here. Then there will be another group of law-brakers who want amnesty.

This all promotes the idea that some people don't need to follow the law, that laws are made to be broken.

26 posted on 03/20/2002 3:22:12 AM PST by Dante3
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To: kattracks
Ah, but Rep. Tancredo, did they enter legally? I take it that the Congressman doesn't read the govt's own studies. A rescent study found that up to 90% of visa applications are fraudulent. Do you know what happens when someone is caught entering the country with a fraudulent visa (of the few that are actually caught)? They are asked to come back so that the INS can talk to them about it. Great, huh?
27 posted on 03/20/2002 3:33:10 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: 4ourprogeny
BUMP

I don't understand the frantic efforts to try to hold on to these criminals. Just send them back.

28 posted on 03/20/2002 4:31:00 AM PST by Dante3
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To: 4ourprogeny
BUMP

I don't understand the frantic efforts to try to hold on to these criminals. Just send them back.

29 posted on 03/20/2002 4:31:04 AM PST by Dante3
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To: over3Owithabrain
Let's not get lost in academic discussions about definitions, the illegals don't.

What it means to have PERVASIVE INS FRAUD (as the GAO says) in the documents submitted and approved by the INS is that
it just doesn't matter what your technical status is.

Any giving ground on amnesty here is a clear signal to lawbreakers that it is now getting easier with more obfuscated excuses being supplied by amnesty supporters.

BTW have you seen that Sposato, on of the recent promoted INS employees over the Atta papers, is heavily involved in the PROMIS affair?

The fraud on the public continues.

30 posted on 03/20/2002 4:49:39 AM PST by flamefront
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To: flamefront
If we keep catering to the illegals, it will only make the situation worse. Fox of Mexico obviously wants to get rid of his surplus population and trouble makers. His solution: dump them into this country.
31 posted on 03/20/2002 5:22:29 AM PST by Dante3
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To: flamefront
If we keep catering to the illegals, it will only make the situation worse. Fox of Mexico obviously wants to get rid of his surplus population and trouble makers. His solution: dump them into this country.
32 posted on 03/20/2002 5:22:34 AM PST by Dante3
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To: flamefront
If we keep catering to the illegals, it will only make the situation worse. Fox of Mexico obviously wants to get rid of his surplus population, especially the deviants and the mentall ill. His solution: dump them into this country.
33 posted on 03/20/2002 5:23:18 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3
dumping people -- isn't that what Cuba did once for the U.S.?
34 posted on 03/20/2002 6:40:29 AM PST by flamefront
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To: PRND21
Bears repeating.

THEY ENTERED LEGALLY.

Most lies require repeating.

They also require refuting.

Section 245(i) is about Illegals.




35 posted on 03/20/2002 6:46:21 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: 4ourprogeny
Once the stay granted by their visa expired they were no longer here legally.

That's only one category of those Illegals eligible for amnesty under this extension that Bush favors...

Section 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment.
Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.

LINK.


And...


How Do I Benefit From Section 245(i)?
(from INS website)

Our immigration laws allow qualified individuals to enter the United States as lawful permanent residents ("green card" holders) after they obtain immigrant visas from a consulate or embassy outside the United States or, for many immigrants already lawfully in the United States, through a process called "adjustment of status." If you entered the United States unlawfully, if you entered with permission but did not stay in lawful status, or if you worked without permission, you normally would have to leave the United States in order to apply for an immigrant visa. Special rules under section 245(i) may allow you to apply to adjust status without leaving the United States.

You might need section 245(i) if you:

  • Entered the U.S. without being inspected by an INS official.
  • Stayed in the U.S. longer than allowed by INS.
  • Entered the U.S. as a worker on an aircraft or ship (crewman).
  • Entered the U.S. as a "Transit Without Visa."
  • Failed to continuously maintain a lawful status since your entry into the US.
  • Worked in the U.S. without INS permission.
  • Entered as an "S" nonimmigrant (relates to witnesses about criminal or terrorism matters).
  • Are seeking a work-related visa and are out of status at the time of filing the application to adjust status (Form I-485).
  • Worked in the U.S. while being an "unauthorized alien."


LINK

All of these categories of Illegals would be eligible under the Bush Amnesty.

Letting Illegals stay = Amnesty for those Illegals.



36 posted on 03/20/2002 6:55:34 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Letting Illegals stay = Amnesty for those Illegals.

Ssttrrrreeeeetttttcchh.
Re-apply does not equal "stay".

37 posted on 03/20/2002 1:35:20 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Ssttrrrreeeeetttttcchh.
Re-apply does not equal "stay".

From #36 above...

"If you entered the United States unlawfully... Special rules under section 245(i) may allow you to apply to adjust status without leaving the United States."

Re-apply does not equal "apply."

Try another stretch.




38 posted on 03/20/2002 1:57:19 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: flamefront
Exactly. And now Fox of Mexico appears to copy Castro.
39 posted on 03/20/2002 2:00:25 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Sabertooth
Special rules under section 245(i) may allow you to...

Any idea what the word "may" refers to?

As an aside, what's up with Evil "Jeff Kent" Keneval? (sp?)

40 posted on 03/20/2002 8:16:56 PM PST by PRND21
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