[sneakypete]

Perhaps, but I think it's more like the Johnny Jihad case. Many of us want to believe that choosing a life of self-centered hedonism has consequences beyond the obvious California-style Creature Comforts.

Yeah,BOY! That must have been one libertine life he was living,sharing room with a bunch of religious nutcases still living in the 12th Century. If that was a hedonistic lifestyle,I'd really hate to see your version of a Spartan existence.

We want to believe that the wages of sin really is death,

Why? That makes no sense at all,other than on the "misery loves company and hates people who aren't miserable" level.

[Freedom2specul8]

Did you all hear john walsh on hannity and colmes? We'll HAVE to get the transcripts tomorrow..

[madprof98]

In an earlier post, I said:

We want to believe that the wages of sin really is death,

And you responded:

Why? That makes no sense at all,other than on the "misery loves company and hates people who aren't miserable" level.

Christians (well, Bible-reading ones anyhow) believe that self-denial is part of what it takes to get beyond the grip of the Flesh and enjoy the delights of life in the Spirit. But I suppose most of us wonder, especially when we hear about the wicked splashing around in the hot tub with their neighbors' wives--or getting away from the kids for a little orgy in the garage. Immediate gratification is mighty tempting. It must have been so for the early Christians as well, or Paul would not have reminded them of where it all ends up.