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College Girls: Unpaid Whores
cornellreview ^ | 3/4/2002 | Joseph J. Sabia

Posted on 03/19/2002 7:13:02 AM PST by TLBSHOW

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To: xm177e2
Drunk horny college girls are not known for being the world's most adept birth control pill takers. If they are pregnant then they will either abort (which I personally militantly abhor) or they will most likely bring a fatherless child into this world or perhaps adoption which is of course a wonderful alternative to abortion. However these days every girl who goes to college is hardly rich and the aforementioned events in her life will no doubt not be of no consequence.

Slutty behavior cheapens everyone involved including the horndogs. Why a woman would want to so willingly give away one of her primary sources of power to strangers in a drunken stupor is beside me.

If you think that the problems in the black community at large are strictly due to racism or slavery, you are quite wrong. Before the Great Society programs which coincided with the sexual revolution black families were only slightly less likely to be a 2 parent household than whites. Look now. Do you really think that the same type of collapse of sexual mores in the college community will not have the same type of destructive results...relatively speaking. The only difference is that the fall for blacks has been one of shorter distance to the bottom. Increased promiscuousness by middle class college girls will not have positive implications for all of us as whole....of that you may be sure.

Instead of applauding this as harmless or how is it irresponsible? your words previously, we should be working to discourage it and promote discretion.

I sense a theme of questioning the place of personal responsibility in your threads. I understand from your username you must like guns (hence Conservative by default on that issue) but are you basically opposed to societal morality in general?

341 posted on 03/19/2002 12:27:53 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: codebreaker
All that is from A&M? I gotta pay a visit down there sometime.

Everyone loves a small town Midwesterner....

343 posted on 03/19/2002 12:31:27 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: lady lawyer
A job is a poor substitute for a family.

only for some. How many women before recent years opted for "family life" because it was the only way to gain economic security? i'm guessing a lot.

women never have any problem with opportunities for sex, the only thing that keeps men from having sex constantly. the only thing that kept women from pursuing as much sex as they wanted was that they had to make themselves more appealing to men so that they woudl be economically supported. men naturally decided on a social order in which they could select a partner with less 'history". why wouldn't they?

that's all changed. morality never dictates behavior in any meaningful way, economics does. women have nothing to lose by having as much sex as they want now with as many partners as they choose.

how much does a message like "if you have a lot of sex i won't marry/support you" affect modern women's thinking when she can have the sex and support herself? probably not much.

344 posted on 03/19/2002 12:32:29 PM PST by RightThinkinDood
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To: wardaddy
The problem for the blacks was the government welfare state in the 1960's.

That is really incredible that the illegitimate rate for black was only 2% above whites back then.

Although I'm sure some of the black colleges have the same troubles with the girls today since all of the N.O.W. stuff has been polluting their minds too.

346 posted on 03/19/2002 12:35:27 PM PST by codebreaker
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To: mackattack
Oh God....I'm in trouble now....

I think women should use utmost discretion in whom they sleep with and when they do it should be for love. I understand your well known preference for love as well as material security and i would not fault that exactly but I would caution that the former is paramount much more so than the latter.

The essential complete breakdown of sexual responsibility in the black community outside the black middle and upper middle class is in my opinion devastating....incredibly so in fact. Nearly 8 of 10 black children have no daddies. Both the mommies and even more so perhaps the daddies are to blame...it has become self perpetuating and is now in it's 4 generation in some cases. I would almost wager that black legitimacy was actually higher during Reconstruction than now...just a thought. When racism was quite real and serious to one's health I might add.

Blacks are only a glaring example but all one need do is look at the history of the world and see what happens when sexual mores reach rock bottom. When middle class college girls are aping Jerry Springer shows...it's not a good sign.

I don't think it is who you sleep with but why that matters dear.

347 posted on 03/19/2002 12:40:23 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: Thorn11cav
Sexual rules for men and women are different just about like nearly all rules and expectations governing behavior that are gender specific.
348 posted on 03/19/2002 12:42:14 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: *SASU
People without morals are no better than animals. Animals have no rights. These animals will wonder why they have no rights and why they can be killed at any whim. They kill babies and old people now and it will not be long until we are all in danger. But hay animals can have sex anytime with whatever they want to and that will make it worth it.
349 posted on 03/19/2002 12:44:12 PM PST by Khepera
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To: wardaddy
I think we are seeing the 'hitting bottom' before the new Welfare laws kick in.

That is LBJ's legacy 80% of black kids with no daddies.

350 posted on 03/19/2002 12:44:54 PM PST by codebreaker
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To: wardaddy
No, I'm not opposed to all morality.

But painting all college girls who have promiscuous sex as "sluts" (as this article did) is wrong. The article wasn't making a social point about the damage promiscuity does to society, it was just written by a guy who wanted to vent his anger for women.

Not all girls who are promiscuous are irresponsible with birth control, and there are better methods of birth control than the pill. You can be against promiscuity without demonizing these girls as whores and sluts.

And there are plenty of responsible people in society who are also promiscuous. The two are not mutually exclusive.

352 posted on 03/19/2002 12:47:59 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: mackattack
I missed your last paragraph Mack. I'm sorry. I think that the lower ends of the black community (which is large by defintion) has lost most of the peer pressure and societal expectations that previously kept said behavior in check. That element in the white community seems to be growing as well even though there is considerable disaprity overall. I deal in a work environment with poor blacks and whites and aside from skin color and dialect there doesn't seem to be much difference these days. I think both poor blacks and whites once had more noble dignity. I should point out that I have more respect for a teenaged black girl who has her baby to be raised by her aunties and granny and whatnot over some middle class suburban white girl who trots off to the abortion clinic to "take care of her problem"....irregardless of the motives of the black girl btw. It's one less dead baby.
353 posted on 03/19/2002 12:49:52 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: TLBSHOW
it must be Reagan's fault
354 posted on 03/19/2002 12:49:55 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: TLBSHOW
I think if this guy wants to get any, he better change his name or transfer.
355 posted on 03/19/2002 12:54:24 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: codebreaker
I do blame the Great Society but whenever a civilization starts to crumble from within like ours these past 40-90 years, the ill effects will profoundly impact those at the bottom first and unfortunately for blacks this includes large numbers of their group. Poor whites are catching up quick though.

As an aside, I have lived in black countries the world over and serial illegitimacy and even polygamy is quite pervasive. I think that before the 60s, that the black community is the US may have been the most nuclear family oriented black community on the planet.

356 posted on 03/19/2002 12:54:39 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: xm177e2
I do not necessarily think they are all sluts(some are) and of course they are not unpaid whores. My only concern is what I percieve to be a destructive impact on society and future families which are the foundation upon which the most successful civilizations the world has seen are borne.

Men who utilize such willing drunken girls are no better.

358 posted on 03/19/2002 12:58:07 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: xm177e2
Maybe ..on your last comment but I forgot who said: If a man's wife can't trust him not to screw around , how can I?

A political leader or general of some sort I recall.

That issue is rather complicated.

359 posted on 03/19/2002 1:02:56 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
That was Ross Perot, at EDS he would fire executive who cheated on their spouses (I'm not sure if I've got all the details right)
360 posted on 03/19/2002 1:06:55 PM PST by xm177e2
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