College Girls: Unpaid Whores

cornellreview ^ | 3/4/2002 | Joseph J. Sabia

[hobbes1]

Jenna And Babs, waiting for ME at a keg Party ?

[wardaddy]

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. - H.L. Mencken

That's a canard and you know better. You think some drunk college girl running a train is going to be "happy" about it ala Mencken down the road in her adult life. Hardly.

I'm not advocating puritanism but I think pan-sexual orgies by coeds or any irresponsible sexual behavior being applauded by those on this thread is simply adolescent fantasy intruding on logic and reasoning. Two thought processes that I would think appeal to you as an Objectivist.

[codebreaker]

My point is why is this columnist shocked at gils behaving like boys?

For most of their lives Hillary, Oprah etc. have told them -'You are just like boys and can do the same things they do.'

[hobbes1]

is simply adolescent fantasy intruding on logic and reasoning.

DUH.....And It's a fun way to irk some of the thin skinned ones around here....Shake things up a bit, though the posting police haven't pointed out yet that this should be in the General Interest column.

[OWK]

Have I voiced approval of such behaviors?

Or have I simply condemned the self-righteous?

[sonserae]

I don't think this is a male/female issue. I think BOTH sexes are responsible for their own morality. To blame the women for leading the men down the sexual trail is just not right. Both need their boundaries and need to stick by them. If they don't, BOTH will suffer the consequences of their unwise decisions.

[hobbes1]

Hardly. Did Adam tempt Eve to bite the apple ? The whole temptress/temptee thing was settled long ago.

[codebreaker]

Actually the columnist in his misguided attempt to take on the issue doesn't get to the underlying cause of why this is happening.

There are some valid points (not expressed in the article) that can be made. He probably just broke up with a hot girl and is mad about something.

These educators have been spouting this feminist line for 30 years and now the chickens have come home to roost.

[hobbes1]

Yup.

[Clemenza]

I guess if men behave the way the writer of this article claims women behave, then the men would have to be whores, too. Correct? Or is it only women who are whores? The writer obviously believes in the double standard. I thought we were no longer living in the 1950s, people!

I don't agree with the "double standard" either. Think of the many poor wives over the years who have been "infected" due to their husband's affairs. I just don't like all the filthy promiscuity that it going on. While we can't legislate it out of existence, those of us who care can try and protect our children as best we can.

[DallasDeb]

Whose morality? Very good question. Try answering. This article is not about legal issues, but the same principle would apply: All laws are based on someone's morality. What's okay for you may not be okay for me and certainly isn't for others. You are probably a libertarian, correct? If so, there is probably little that you would say is immoral aside from the obvious crimes of murder and theft.

But where does the line get drawn? Some (I'm sure not you) would argue that adults should be able to have sex with children. If you disagree with that, why should your morality be imposed on those who would go further into the typically unacceptable behaviors?

This country was established on the premise that Judeo-Christian ethics are the basis of morality. Nothing in mankind has changed to justify the unacceptability of certain behaviors.

[wardaddy]

I understand young folks "sowing oats". The thumb in the dyke of what could be a Scandinavian style youth orgy has always been the ability of wise girls to say no or to at a minimum wait for that "special somone" with whom at least the prospect of a meaningful relationship was likely. If young girls wish to behave as horndog young men or worse yet bath house style gay men then the dyke of discretion has been breached and society as well as the young women in question will pay....not to mention the unwanted children. The abortion butchers will profit of course.

All civilized societies value chaste behavior in young women...always have and not without reason....the "pill" notwithstanding. I mean how do we look back on Caligula?...with respect?...LOL

[sonserae]

OH COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!! Adam had to take responsibility for eating the apple!! She didn't hold a gun to his head. You are unbelievable.

[hobbes1]

When they give away one of their main sources of bargaining power in a relationship – sex –

But then again, In his own words a womans worth, TO HIM, derives from one thing mostly. Considering the lack of maturity and reflection in that statement, how can one take anything he says seriously.

[hobbes1]

He did. He paid the Price for his action. But HE WAS TEMPTED.

[antidemocommie]

Glad you asked.....The reason Mr. Moms don't work is because no matter how much propaganda the leftist feminazi movemnent feeds US women, they know deep down inside that the man in the relationship is supposed to be out working, and they are supposed to be taking care of the kids back at home, so soooon resentment sets in and mom feels shes being used while dad takes care of the kids at home.

Isn't that funny? Its soo true. This is even more true than this "your money is our money; my money is my money" thing. Both are true,however.

[codebreaker]

I agree, both sides accept responsibility.

But you cannot ignore during the last 30 years in the media on campus and in government there has been an effort to make girls 'more like boys.' The solution is to be honest and realistic rather than pretend we live in a unisex country.

[wardaddy]

I know ...I know...no opinion or judgement except about those who hold one...right?

This is exactly where you Libertarians start to sound like Liberals.

Respectfully of course.

[DallasDeb]

It is a 50/50 proposistion at least.

Actually, from a Christian perspective, the man is MORE responsible than the woman. He is the leader, the decision maker, the priest of the family (supposedly). He can only be that to his family if he has practiced it in his life. I've tried to teach my sons that THEY are responsible for protecting their "women" from harm, whether it be physical, emotional, or moral.