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To: Sabertooth
Looks like we are swimming in Bush-Bots today. They must have got their latest talking points from the WH. I find it absolutely amazing how otherwise intelligent people can have a difficult time understanding the plain English wording of the 245I bill. What else can you say?

I have come to the conclusion that it is impossible to reason with the Bush-Bot and Neo-Con contingent on FR. No matter how compelling the logic and facts are they rush in with their straw man arguments and WH spin totally ignoring all reason. The fact is they don't want to know the real story. They have an agenda that supercedes the truth. And the irony is that if Bill Clinton pulled what Bush did with this Amnesty fiasco they would be all over him.

With the Bush-Bots it’s all about supporting Bush no matter what he does. With the Neo-Cons it’s all about keeping the immigration free for all going no matter what the costs are to America. The intellectual dishonesty of these folks is staggering.

122 posted on 03/19/2002 10:06:39 AM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
Looks like we are swimming in Bush-Bots today. They must have got their latest talking points from the WH.

I dont get any orders from Bush but I would be proud to do so. I would be totally ashamed to carry water for Xenophobics like Buchannan or Tancredo.

I find it absolutely amazing how otherwise intelligent people can have a difficult time understanding the plain English wording of the 245I bill. What else can you say?

I have yet to see anything posted here in the actual wording of the bill that says anything you folks say its saying. Why dont you just post the full Senate version of the bill thats being debated rather than hide behind a bunch of links that dont work and your summary of what the bill means. Show it to us. Give us real proof.

And if you want to have constructive debate you might tell us in clear English what it is in this bill that you object to because a lot fo the stuff being posted aint in the bill.

With the Bush-Bots it’s all about supporting Bush no matter what he does. With the Neo-Cons it’s all about keeping the immigration free for all going no matter what the costs are to America. The intellectual dishonesty of these folks is staggering.

Talk about intellectual dishonesty. Anyone that parotts anything that Pat Buchannan has to say about anything is hardly one to question the intellectual honesty of another. After all in Pat's next book he is goign to blame 911 on the Israeli's and he is going to say that this whole thing about the Holocaust is all overblown. Burp!

139 posted on 03/19/2002 10:49:15 AM PST by Dave S
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To: WRhine
And the irony is that if Bill Clinton pulled what Bush did with this Amnesty fiasco they would be all over him.

Well of course they would.

If Bush wanted to deport illegal aliens, put the military on the borders, reform our insane immigration policies, the Bush supporters would be all for it. Bet the rent. This is all political business as usual.

Forget national security, forget securing our borders, Homeland security? LOL! Foget about the millions upon millions of criminal illegals all over our country and the millions more coming every year. Its good for us.

154 posted on 03/19/2002 11:20:21 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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