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AMNESTY by BUSH - The Truth about Section 245(i)
March 19th, 2002 | Compiled by Sabertooth

Posted on 03/19/2002 1:49:07 AM PST by Sabertooth

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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for posting this. Bush has sold us out, I don't see it as anything else.
321 posted on 03/19/2002 9:00:18 PM PST by Michael2001
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To: Luis Gonzalez
To the best of my knowledge, I have yet to see Bush's FIRST amnesty. Could you point me to the direction of a signed law that grants amnesty to any number of immigrants?

Scroll to the top of this thread.

And don't come back with "it doesn't actually SAY Amnesty."

The effect of the legislation is that some Illegals will become legal. That's an Amnesty.

To suggest otherwise is to confess intellectual kinship with Bill "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Clinton.




322 posted on 03/19/2002 9:00:45 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: 4ourprogeny
Come on, show me how you reached your conclusion, show me the millions.....

Discuss the issue or go away. Saber and I have things to discuss.

323 posted on 03/19/2002 9:00:56 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You say that you have always stayed with the lower numbers, yet you also say that Bush will grant amnesty to millions.

I've never read where Sabertooth has said that 245I is in effect granting amnesty to millions. I've seen other posters make this prediction but not Saber. Why do you try to perpetuate a false statement made by another poster when you have no clue as to what the facts are?

325 posted on 03/19/2002 9:03:23 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Luis Gonzalez
That is your statement that 245(i) IS a blanket amnesty.

So, why will you not admit that you said that?

Because your misinterpretation is specious.

How could I believe that the 245(i) mod is a blanket amnesty, when I'm going with the 200,000 number used by proponents of the extension?




326 posted on 03/19/2002 9:04:55 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: sweetliberty
I can't believe the heat I'm taking on this issue from otherwise reasonable, intelligent people. Some people just think Bush can do no wrong. While I don't support a lot of the Bush bashing that goes on, the Bush worship is just as counterproductive. Blind loyalty kills objectivity.

Hey, don't forget the middle ground! I have no problem with people objecting to Bush's support of this bill. It's the one-issue "If he signs this I'll never vote for him or another Republican ever again, gasp wheeze!" types that drive me nuts.

Disclaimer: I think this bill is the biggest nothing anyway. As screwed up as the INS and our entire border patrol system is, I doubt it'll have any measurable effect even if it does pass. Also, I think this whole thing is merely a matter of Bush being a lot sneakier than most people are willing to give him credit for.

327 posted on 03/19/2002 9:06:14 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Luis Gonzalez
To the best of my knowledge, I have yet to see Bush's FIRST amnesty.

Mr.Gonzalez I'd like you to meet Mr. Bush's 245I Amnesty bill. Oh are you going to hang on to the hopes that like CFR Bush is going to veto the bill? LOL.

328 posted on 03/19/2002 9:07:19 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
I've seen other posters make this prediction but not Saber. Why do you try to perpetuate a false statement made by another poster when you have no clue as to what the facts are?

He posted his own vanity thread making that EXACT prediction.

329 posted on 03/19/2002 9:07:37 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: 4ourprogeny
No, I am saying that YOU don't know what this bill says.
331 posted on 03/19/2002 9:09:02 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: WRhine
Is it signed yet?

Was HR 1885 signed or was it the Senate bill instead?

332 posted on 03/19/2002 9:11:42 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Texasforever
He posted his own vanity thread making that EXACT prediction.

About the 245(i) extension?

Where?




333 posted on 03/19/2002 9:11:57 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: WRhine
"are you going to hang on to the hopes that like CFR Bush is going to veto the bill?"

Fat chance! He is determined to hand this thing to Fox on a silver platter.

334 posted on 03/19/2002 9:12:33 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: WRhine
Post #310, unless of course you and Saber are talking about a bill not yet known to anyone.
336 posted on 03/19/2002 9:13:32 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: 4ourprogeny
There is no need to be "pro or con" amnesty for millions, that isn't an issue at hand.

Can you prove that under the guidelines set forth by either HR 1885, or S 778 millions of illegals will qualify?

337 posted on 03/19/2002 9:15:11 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: WRhine
BTW, 245i isn't a bill, is a section of an existing law.
338 posted on 03/19/2002 9:16:22 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Texasforever
He posted his own vanity thread making that EXACT prediction.

Not on 245I like others have which is what Sabertooth was talking about. And I agree with Saber that Bush's comprehensive plan with Mexico does involve Amnesty for millions of illegals over the next few years. It's going to be one mini-amnesty after another. Call it an informed guess on interpreting some of Bush's past statements on this subject and his love affair with Mexico.

339 posted on 03/19/2002 9:19:22 PM PST by WRhine
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