Posted on 03/19/2002 1:49:07 AM PST by Sabertooth
You say that you have never accused Bush of seeking a blanket amnesty, yet I see you accusing Bush of seeking a blanket amnesty.
You say that you have always stayed with the lower numbers, yet you also say that Bush will grant amnesty to millions.
Am I following you so far?
Please, go and educate yourself on the issue before you post to me.
Please, let's stay above Jr. High logic here.
That could be a sign that you are wrong on this issue.
Maybe that never entered your mind, but it is a possibility.
You say that you have never accused Bush of seeking a blanket amnesty, yet I see you accusing Bush of seeking a blanket amnesty.
You say that you have always stayed with the lower numbers, yet you also say that Bush will grant amnesty to millions.
Am I following you so far?
Sometimes, let me see if I can help you a little...
Blanket Amnesty means Amnesty for all Illegals. If a big Amnesty plan legalizes millions, but not all, then it isn't "blanket Amnesty." Are you following me so far?
So, since I take Bush at his word that he doesn't want "blanket Amnesty," that means that I believe that he doesn't want Amnesty for all Illegals. Still with me?
The lower numbers I'm sticking with are in specific reference to the 245(i) extension passed last week in the House.
I've also said that I don't think this will be Bush's final Amnesty. Do you?
I'm putting together a more fitting analogy for Illegals, whose purpose actually is to move into my country.
Your speeding analogy is fundamentally flawed.
No. Never.Mmmmmm........really?I've been accused frequently of having said that, but I've studiously pointed out it's not true.
Nor do I now believe President Bush seeks a "blanket amnesty."
I never said the 245(i) modifications would result in millions of Amnesties. Never.Others have, but I've been consistently going with the 200,000 number. I believe on one post I mentioned estimates of 200,000 and 350,000. But I've stayed with the smaller number.
Is that so?
Speaking of games Dane, your posts are among the most transparently dishonest on FR.Time and again you play your "No Blanket Amnesty" schtick, usually as straw man, but this time as false dilemma. Who do you think you're kidding?
"No Blanket Amnesty" is nothing more than Bush Administration spin and damage control.
Let's look again at the subterfuge... Estimates of illegals currently squatting in the United States range from 8 million to 13 million. Let's take the low number. An Amnesty for 7.5 million ("undocumented," or "non-regular," or "uninspected," etc.) aliens could be granted, and Bush would still be technically not lying, because a "blanket amnesty" would be for all illegal colonistas..
President Bush's "No Blanket Amnesty" is a Clintonian promise in spirit, because it's an attempt to conceal his true goal, which is an Amnesty by another name (even more dishonesty) for millions of illegal aliens.
A promise of "no blanket amnesty" is an empty shell, as has been explained to you whenever you show up parroting the talking points.
32 posted on 3/16/02 3:11 PM Pacific by Sabertooth
However, employers, corporations and unions conveniently look the other way, especially when cheap labor is involved. Bush offering an olive branch to court the hispanic vote is politically shrewd, and will have little or no effect on the overall problem of illegals entering the country.
When you're ready to pay $4 for a head of lettuce, we can solve this problem. And when we start throwing the officers of companies into jail for knowingly hiring illegals (Tyson Chicken, anyone?), then maybe things will start to change.
Not even Saber is holding on to that one anymore.
Start bailing, your boat is sinking.
I really wish I could be proven wrong on this issue, but everywhere I go looks more and more like Nogales all the time. I just don't see how rewarding people for breaking the law is going to help that.
Go for it. I'll betcha "without inspection" at least in practice as to how they APPLY the law pertains to those who entered the country illegally.
To the best of my knowledge, I have yet to see Bush's FIRST amnesty.
Could you point me to the direction of a signed law that grants amnesty to any number of immigrants?
When a crime is committed, and a fine is assessed, it's understood that the crime must stop.
When an Illegal comes into our country, is captured, fined $1,000, and then deported... the crime has stopped.
If the Illegal pays $1,000, and is given legal status, the crime has not really stopped, he's just paid a fee to get away with it.
But it's not a BLANKET AMNESTY..."
"Bush is a genius, because..."
Sorry, enough of all that. Go read the legislation.
That is your statement that 245(i) IS a blanket amnesty.
So, why will you not admit that you said that?
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