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The shooting involvoing Mr. Shultz and Agent Braga was an unfortunate tragic




Your reply is steeped in the paranoia that seems to affect many who post here. I know two individuals who are assigned to an ATF SRT. They are experienced street agents who spent a number of years on the steets of Baltimore investigating CRIMINALS who ILLEGALLY possessed firearms.....many of whom were career criminals with multiple violent felony convictions (read rape, armed robbery, attempted murder etc.) BEFORE becoming SRT members. One joined the ATF after college, the other after college and five years as a local police officer in another city. No military background.

You state you were in Naval Special Warfare and that ALL of those members of ATF SRT's have specops background. Bull. It's broad sweeping unjustified generalizations like this that serve only provide grist for a paranoid rumor mill.

Do your research Mr. McGee. It's easy to hide behind a keyboard.

[sport]

Slow day at the office?
If the fbi and the atf were not a bunch of bloodthirsty cold blooded murders. If the fbi and atf did not get their rocks off shooting helpless people, they would have prosecuted the agents that murdered Randy Weaver's wife and son and the agent that willfully and deliberately shot the kid then handcuffed him and hoped he would bleed to death.

The only difference between fbi and atf agents and the Gestappo agents of Socialist Germany is time. The mindset of all three are the same.

[Travis McGee]

Oh yeah, the ATF SRTs are real tough guys. They are great at slamming pregnant women against walls and causing miscarriages, and shooting dogs and stomping cats to death in front of screaming children for their jollies. All that and more we can walk you through the cases if you wish.

Sure, they could go after gang bangers, but hey, they hide and shoot back. Much easier to cull the records for ancient misdemeanors, and then crash in at 3 AM. Big heros.

[Travis McGee]

This thread won't go away: good.

You are correct, I overstated back in reply 48. I should not have said ALL FBI SWAT and HRT, and BATFE SRT members are former members of military specops units.

I should have said MOST of them are. And I stand by that.

Factoid: 2/3s of the original FBI HRT selectees were SEALs. Out of some 100+ who tried out, about 20 of the 30 (my memory is old but close on numbers) whe passed and were selected were all 20 of the former SEALs who tried out.

But I am sure there are some trigger happy "pray for war" and "shoot the kid in the face" gung ho nutjobs who come straight to their JBT calling from civilian life.

It's just that more of them take the military route on their way in.

Like "shoot the kids in the face" Braga.