Talk about ignoring posts. Did you read my item on renewables and efficiencies? If I insulate my house (I did), using a local contractor (I did), I am warmer and save money (I did), the local economy benefits (contractor spends his profit, I spend my energy cost savings), and I USE LESS ENERGY. Multiply this by the millions of energy savings opportunities around the U.S. and all of the public win.
(and with economic benefit to all) except those that choose to live in Alaska or support themselves with skills based on an industry that is dependant on narural resource development. Perhaps you didn't read or choose to ignore evidence to the contrary.
I respect your skills but should the rest of the country sacrifice to support your industry? The oil industry is and always has been a boom and bust endeavor, based on dwindling resources, and is unsustainable. Those who place their trust in it should be aware of the risk.
(we could easily do without the potential oil in ANWR.) your opinion
No, fact. Increasing fuel efficiency by 1 mpg would eliminate the need for ANWR oil. Requiring replacement tires to be as fuel efficient as new would eliminate the need for ANWR oil. Two very basic, affordable examples, both facts, no opinion involved.
So you suggest we continue to send our petrodollars to the ME nations that hate us and use our dollars to fund terrorism against us? Once again you are correct, why should we keep any of this money in our own country to provide jobs and income for the people of the U.S. It only makes sense to pollute a third world country rather than allow drilling in the most pollution free environment in oil production on the face of this planet. Are you really that obtuse?
Once again you’ve ignored my posts. I emphasize domestic renewables and efficiency measures, which would create jobs and provide economic benefits for local U.S. economies. And by the way, the majority of our imported oil DOES NOT come from the Mideast. But I’m sure when drilling supporters constantly repeat that mantra there is no intention to mislead (sarcasm).
Again you must have skipped over or chosen not to read the posts to the contrary I suppose you believe the security of oil tankers from the mideast to be far superior than anything here on U.S. soil?
See my previous answers.
(The degree of environmental impact is highly debatable as this thread has shown. But risk does exist and if you say the risk is nil you are living in a dreamland), This is your opinion and the dreamland exists between your ears.
A diverse team of knowledgeable and experienced scientists have confirmed the risks. It is your opinion that they are part of some conspiracy to keep you out of ANWR. Who do you expect me to believe?
Also, the consensus from leading economists is that the estimated employment potential and economic impact are greatly exaggerated by drilling supporters. Should I believe economic experts or industry insiders? I’ve ignored some of your comments and “facts” because they come from industry insiders, who stand to gain from drilling, which makes them hard to accept as unbiased reliable sources who accurately analyze and interpret the data.
You are right, I said a week ago that I didn't have the time for this. I decided I was wrong and that it was worth making time to answer all the questions that are thrown at me and to continue to clarify my position.
How is the rest of the U.S. sacrificing because we designate 2,000 acres of ANWR of 19,000,000for oil production?
The oil industry is and always has been a boom and bust endeavor, based on dwindling resources, and is unsustainable. Those who place their trust in it should be aware of the risk.
So we should place our trust in a technology that has proven to be inefficient? It's nice that you have chosen to insulate your house. Have you also chosen to power it with solar or wind power? If not what are your excuses? You could be a real example of non dependence on the power of big oil, what's holding you back?
Increasing fuel efficiency by 1 mpg would eliminate the need for ANWR oil.
The trouble with this argument is that not everyone wants to drive a Yugo.
Requiring replacement tires to be as fuel efficient as new would eliminate the need for ANWR oil. Two very basic, affordable examples, both facts, no opinion involved.
Where are these magical tires? I will continue to submit my mantra of supply and demand.
Once again you’ve ignored my posts. I emphasize domestic renewables and efficiency measures, which would create jobs and provide economic benefits for local U.S. economies. And by the way, the majority of our imported oil DOES NOT come from the Mideast. Time To Quit Trying To Wish Our Way Out of Dependence on Mideast Oil Wordsmiths tell us the expression "you can't get blood from a turnip" has been around since 1666.
You'd think 335 years would be long enough to get the point across, but apparently not, because some environmentalists still believe alternative energy can run the country.
Consider California. For two decades, California has promoted alternative energy. It also has suffered an energy crisis.
California has more than 100 windmill power generator facilities. They provide a total of 1,400 megawatts of electricity, compared to the state's Diablo Canyon nuclear plant, which provides 2,100 mw. It would take 3,300 such windmill facilities to generate the state's electricity.
Wind energy suffers multiple disadvantages. Its generation costs are double to triple those of conventional energy. It requires minimum average wind speeds, and, because winds are unpredictable, output cannot be timed to match demand. Turbine blades kill birds the Cato Institute estimates that if 20 percent of our nation's electricity were to be generated by wind power, 880,000 birds would be killed annually.
Even the American Wind Energy Association only claims that wind energy could supply six percent of U.S. energy needs by 2020. Wind energy can't make us energy independent anytime soon.
Solar energy is no panacea either. California is home to the world's largest set of solar electric cells, yet they provide just 413 mw of electricity.
The hydropower option requires capital investments 3-6 times higher than conventional energy. Hydropower's future is imperiled by environmentalists because dams can harm flora, fauna and fish.
Nevertheless, the free market is fair. If any method of alternative energy becomes practical and economical, Americans will use it. In the meantime, we need to rely on the tried and true, including oil.
America probably has more than 110 billion barrels of recoverable oil reserves. Full exploitation would not make the U.S. energy independent, but it would make us less vulnerable to Middle Eastern instability.
Unfortunately, federal land available for oil and gas exploration in the western U.S. - where 67 percent of the nation's onshore oil reserves and 40 percent of natural gas reserves are located - has decreased by more than 60 percent since 1983. Oil exploration has essentially been banned from more than 300 million onshore acres of federal land.
Congress also has prohibited exploration and production on more than 460 million offshore acres, including most of the best prospects for major new offshore discoveries outside the Western and Central Gulf of Mexico. Federal restrictions should be reviewed.
The House of Representatives recently voted to permit environmentally-responsible drilling on 2,000 acres of the oil-rich 19-million-acre Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR), most likely America's most valuable oil reserve. The Energy Information Administration estimates that ANWR contains 5.7-16 billion barrels of oil. ANWR oil could replace Saudi oil imports for almost 30 years. Or, it could replace half of what we import from all of the Persian Gulf for 36 years. Yet, Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle won't schedule a vote on the House bill because, he says, the Senate is too busy with other things.
The time for excuses especially dubious ones is past. It is time we quit trying to wish our way out of dependence on Mideast oil and started doing something about it.
Good News About the Environment: A Review of Bjorn Lomborg's The Skeptical Environmentalist
You can tell you've won the debate when your opponent's remaining intellectual argument is to throw a pie in your face.
Bjorn Lomborg, a former Greenpeace supporter, experienced that happy and, perhaps, tasty, satisfaction during a talk at a Borders bookshop in Oxford, England on September 5, when British environmental activist Mark Lynas threw a Baked Alaska in his face.
"I wanted to put a Baked Alaska on his smug face," Lynas said in a statement afterward, "in solidarity with the native Indian and Eskimo people in Alaska who are reporting rising temperatures, shrinking sea ice and worsening effects on animal and bird life."
Lomborg has become an anathema to true believers such as Lynas because, after studying the available evidence, Lomborg no longer embraces the environmental community's shibboleths about runaway global warming.
An associate professor of statistics at the University of Aarhus in Denmark, Lomborg, like Lynas, once believed the world was "going to hell" - transported there mainly by selfish Americans who insisted on running their air conditioners in summer, their snowmobiles in winter and their SUVs year-round.
Lomborg's view of global warming began to change when he put aside his gut feelings and reviewed the latest scientific evidence on the subject.
Lomborg has analyzed those studies in a brilliant new book, "The Skeptical Environmentalist," and concluded that "we have more leisure time, greater security, less pollution, fewer accidents, more education, more amenities, higher incomes, and fewer starving people" than any other generation in history.
So why do so many of us apparently believe otherwise? In large part, Lomborg says, because the challenges of climate change, deforestation, poor air and water quality and endangered species have been vastly overblown by advocacy groups in search of funding and a somewhat gullible media in search of headlines and air time.
"That doesn't mean there are no problems, but things are getting better and better despite what media and environmental organizations say," says Lomborg.
Consider:
* The percentage of people in the developing world with access to clean water has increased to 80 percent from 30 percent since the early 1970s.
* Literacy levels have increased to 86 percent from 25 percent in less than a century.
* Life expectancy has followed an upward trajectory for more than 100 years with even those in the most impoverished countries now living longer than did most Europeans in the 1900s.
* The average daily food intake has increased to 2,650 from 2,000 calories over the past four decades.
My how perceptions change.
In the 1970s it was predicted that widespread starvation would take place, even in highly-developed first world countries, by the end of the 20th Century. The march of time and progress has rendered this prediction preposterous. Likewise absurd are 1970s predictions of a coming ice age. When that prophesy failed to materialize, its prophets reversed course and began warning us about global warming and its supposed catastrophes: melting ice caps, rising seas, farmland droughts and huge increases in the spread of communicable diseases such as Malaria.
While the Earth is indeed in a cyclical phase of warming - one degree over the past century - there is scant evidence to suggest that pace will accelerate and even less evidence to suggest that human consumption of fossil fuels or other human activities is responsible.
Rather than have the United States commit economic suicide by signing a Kyoto treaty that would cost it up to $350 billion a year to implement, and cause economic dislocations that would fall particularly harshly on the poor, Lomborg would prefer to see the world community finance a program to extend safe-drinking water to the 1.2 billion humans that still lack it.
"For less than one year's cost of meeting Kyoto," he says, "we could provide systems for clean drinking water that would save two million lives a year."
I seriously doubt that you will bother to read this post, however for my own sanity,I will post it.