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To: alaskanfan
It’s interesting how earlier in this thread I was accused of relying too heavily on opinion and speculation. Now that I’ve presented scientific evidence it seems opinion and speculation are acceptable for you to use. Your view that FWS reports are biased or inaccurate are your opinion only. Yes, you’re opinion is based on observation of the North Slope oil development, but you certainly don’t have any hard scientific evidence to back it up. I observed a rise of the wild turkey population on my family’s farm but I certainly can’t conclude that it was because of our farming practices. I’m sure you know your stuff when it comes to the oil industry, but to claim you know better than the biologists when it comes to the plants and wildlife is certainly a stretch. I doubt you can claim you were unbiased in reaching your conclusions.

Drilling supporters often tell opponents that they don’t have a clue since they’ve never even been in Alaska. I mentioned my trip only to let others know I’ve been to Alaska and I loved what I saw in the true wilderness. I never claimed that the trip gave me any special knowledge about the affects of oil drilling in ANWR. For information on that factor I referred you to the best authority available, the scientists who spend careers gathering relevant information. I did present other arguments (ANWR oil alternatives, TAP security, etc.) that were based on facts, common sense, and logic; no insider or local knowledge necessary.

I certainly would not feel justified in voicing my opinion on this issue if the only people affected were residents of Alaska. I’m all for local control of local issues. But the fact is that this is a national and international issue because of the unique ecosystem represented by ANWR, and because of the worldwide economic and environmental impact of continued dependence on fossil fuels. Another fact is that ANWR belongs to all citizens of the U.S., and as the poll I referred to indicated, the majority would prefer ANWR be preserved. So there is no outside influence here; we are all affected by the outcome.

73 posted on 04/01/2002 10:42:13 AM PST by skytoo
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To: skytoo
Once again you are correct skytoo, it certainly is a stretch of the imagination to claim that the same groups that charged the oil industry with facilitating the ecological death of the norh coast of Alaska prior to development of Prudhoe Bay, and are now using these same excuses against the developement of ANWR, might somehow be incorrect. It certainly is a big strech of the imagination to think that these same groups could be wrong about the same thing again. You would have thought they would have learned something after the first go round. I'm sorry that I doubted any of your sources of overwhelming evidence. I will ignore anything that I might know to the contrary.

I can certainly understand how you and others that want "no exploitation of natural resources in our back yard" are disappointed about all of those caribou and wetland birds that were not decimated when the Prudhoe Bay and Kuparuk oilfields were brought into production, and named the most enviromentally friendly oilfields on the face of the earth. I will ignore all of the environmental advances made in the oil industry, and directly attributable to the north slope oil fieilds in the last twenty years. I will actively resist any knowledge that I have of the efforts and monetary expenditures of the great state of Alaskain combating environmental damage.

It certainly makes no sense to me to exploit any of the natural resources in this great land of ours. We might as well tell those farmers in Nebraska to just let that land go back to the wild. We can buy our corn some other place, like maybe China. We can all just sit back and suck off the government tit and depend on folks like you to support us. It's just to bad for all of you uneducated folks that want to espire to something besides a job at Wal-Mart or McDonalds. I'm certain that office job you have is self supporting, and doesn't rely on any resource production to sustain it.</ sarcasm >

I might not have a college education, but I do know that if it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck you'd better have a shotgun that is loaded.

74 posted on 04/01/2002 3:30:39 PM PST by alaskanfan
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To: skytoo
BTW did I mention that I am a long time Huskers fan (about the mid 60s). Not that well acquainted with Devaney but IMO Osborne is the finest coach to ever draw a breath.
75 posted on 04/01/2002 4:57:07 PM PST by alaskanfan
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