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To: Mom_Grandmother
I will never forget what I heard a General Gavin say on of all places the Mike Douglas Show. Gavin said that Haiphong harbor was not a natural harbor, but a man made harbor. That in order for the harbor to be maintained to dock large sea going vessels, it needed to be regularly dredged. He insisted that we never bombed the dredges, and if we had bombed the dredges and continued to do so that a major source of supply to North Vietnam would have been cut off.

Whether this is true or not I do not know except to say that I felt the General appeared very credible to me. My contempt for Johnson and vile the bureaucrats who prosecuted the Vietnam War led me to accept this account as true. I conjectured the reason that they did not bomb the dredges was because they did not want to deprive our so called allies the opportunity to profiteer from our dead American heroes. My contempt also led me to wander if Americans were not somehow profiteering in some covert way through Haiphong Harbor.

In just how many ways American soldiers were betrayed by the politicians, diplomats, bureaucrats, and captains of the military industrial complex we may never know? I will tend to believe Oliver Stone before I would ever believe any of the ever growing league of plagiarizing historians.

65 posted on 03/17/2002 4:04:14 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: Biblebelter
Bottom line, we didn't have an ally (South Vietnam) willing to make the sacrifices for victory. Many of the ARVN generals and officers looked upon the war as a way to make an easy buck. Sorry, without a credible ally, the war was lost from the get-go.
68 posted on 03/17/2002 4:09:41 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: Biblebelter
Armchair Warriors, and there was plenty of money to go around. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know this. I pray that our troops are never, ever put in the possition they were in Vietnam or the Philipines (spelled wrong I'm sure). War scares the he** out of me today with the weapons of mass destruction that seem to be plentifull all around. In my honest opinion, we cannot ever afford to back down, slow down, waver or faulter in the world we live in today.

I pray for President Bush everyday, I pray he will always "say what he means and mean what he say's". Bless him, he is not the most perfect person on earth (there are none), but he is the best we have fighting for us now.

84 posted on 03/17/2002 4:26:09 PM PST by Mom_Grandmother
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To: Biblebelter
I will tend to believe Oliver Stone before I would ever believe any of the ever growing league of plagiarizing historians.

Doris Kerns Goodwin served under LBJ.

As Dr. Doris Kerns, who became an associate professor of history of Harvard, she did have sex with that ballot-box stuffer and major benefactor of Brown & Root, Lyndon Baines Johnson.

The Texas Connection, Craig I. Zirbel, Warner, 1991, page 90, from It Didn't Start With Watergate, Victor Lasky, Dial, 1977, page 203.

I confirmed this by e-mail last year with Lasky's agent, the much-maligned confidant of Linda Tripp.

LBJ was doing America, and Doris was doing LBJ. Political bedfellows betraying everything but ambition.

88 posted on 03/17/2002 4:29:17 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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