[ArneFufkin]

It's fairly obvious over the last 10-12 days, that immigration reform, policy and philosophy is not the issue for the increasingly recognizable obsessives here. It's not immigration, it's the immigrants. It's not security concerns, it's not economic injury ... it's cultural encroachment they so abhor and fear. There's no underlying virtue or foundation of respect to start any debate with them. They don't like Mexicans. Legal or illegal. They want them out. I want these creeps out.

[Love America or move to ......]

Here's one stat that you can start a debate with: The population of the U.S. will double within the next 50 years. This increase is due to immigrants and their progeny. Source: the U.S. Census Bureau

[Amerigomag]

It's not immigration, it's the immigrants

You're dead wrong!

For the most part the concern is principled and it's not about immigrants, not even about immigration.

The concern is about unregulated immigration and the ability of our society to absorb the masses being encouraged to emmigrate.

It's about the concentration of immigrants in areas which have neither the resources nor infrastructure to absorb these masses. It's about the consequent multicutural nightmares that arise when absorbtion is not possible.

Both the society and the immigrant are harmed. The American culture is not preserved and the immigrant is denied the American dream because his presence has erased the culture and thereby the possiblity of achieveing the dream. The immigrant has not escaped but simply drug his cultural limitations with him.