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Britain isolated over Iraq war threat
The Guardian (U.K.) ^ | 03/16/2002 | John Hooper, Jon Henley, and Patrick Wintour

Posted on 03/15/2002 6:27:56 PM PST by Pokey78

Germany's chancellor, Gerhard Schröder, yesterday brought into the open the growing rift between Britain and continental Europe over taking the "war on terror" to Iraq when he signalled he had no intention of participating in any unilateral military action launched against Baghdad by the United States.

In a move that highlighted the breach between Tony Blair and his European partners, Mr Schröder's spokeswoman confirmed a report that Germany would only join in a broadening of the US-led "war on terror" if the action were backed by the United Nations. "It's a position of principle of which our American partners are also aware," she said.

Further looming problems were underlined yesterday when Turkey, a key member of Nato - whose bases could be needed for military operations - argued that Saddam Hussein did not constitute a threat to his neighbours. Saudi Arabia has also made clear its opposition to use of its bases.

Mr Schröder's reported remarks chimed with the sceptical stance adopted by Paris. French government sources said Mr Schröder was "pretty much in line" with their view.

"Any kind of military operation should of course exist within that existing UN framework. France agreed to support the US attacks in Afghanistan after September 11 because the situation was new, there was clear proof that al-Qaida was operating there. The country had been warned, and the strikes were targeted. Iraq is different. It is not new."

Mr Schröder's new stance, that existing UN resolutions were insufficient to justify an attack, is in marked contrast to the increasingly hawkish noises emanating from London about a possible strike on Saddam. It also offered a focus for other continental European leaders known to be uneasy about the possible consequences of an attack on Iraq.

In its two most recent major campaigns - Afghanistan and Kosovo - the US has avoided UN involvement, preferring to work with Nato or through impromptu coalitions, of which Britain has consistently been at the forefront.

Speaking in Barcelona following a meeting between Mr Blair and Mr Schröder, the prime minister's spokesman did little to disguise the differences saying: "People may come at that discussion from different perspectives, but they share the goal."

British sources believe a return to the UN for a specific mandate for military action would end in failure, largely due to Russian opposition.

The Foreign Office minister Ben Bradshaw came close last week to telling MPs that military action could be launched without any specific UN endorsement. "The legal view, with which I have some sympathy, is that Iraq is in flagrant breach, not just of UN resolutions, but of the ceasefire agreement that it entered into at the end of the Gulf war."

The British government has long argued that Iraq is in breach of as many as seven UN resolutions, but also said it will wait to see if Iraq picks up a deal on a new sanctions regime in return for the reintroduction of the UN weapons inspectors. Mr Blair has also said he believes Iraq is in breach of resolution 687 on getting rid of weapons of mass destruction.

The threat of an assault on Iraq has caused jitters on the back benches with 117 Labour MPs, including former ministers, now backing an early day motion opposing any war.

President Bush identified Iraq as one of three countries whose suspected development of weapons of mass destruction made them a danger to the US. Iran and North Korea were also named as making up the so-called axis of evil.

But it is Iraq that has become the focus of speculation as to the next phase in the US campaign to forestall another September 11-style attack.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 03/15/2002 6:27:56 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78; aculeus; Orual; BlueLancer; MadIvan
Isolated from the Euroweenies? Good, the English should be proud.
2 posted on 03/15/2002 6:34:04 PM PST by dighton
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To: dighton
Isolated from the Euroweenies? Good, the English should be proud.

I have had a hard time believing that Great Britain would cast its lot with the EU. The Brits are every bit as rebellious as we are and don't take kindly to ultimatums.

3 posted on 03/15/2002 6:40:47 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Pokey78
Diplomacy 101: The clintonh8r Doctrine: SCREW EUROPE
4 posted on 03/15/2002 6:52:08 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: Pokey78
The UN is now god? May the UN bless our airmen, soldiers and sailors.
5 posted on 03/15/2002 7:09:29 PM PST by Kermit
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To: Pokey78;All
THE UNITED STATES IS BEING DIMINISHED

"The blindness of the American leadership elite is diminishing the role of the United States as the leader of the Western world,and is offering the Soviets fresh openings enabling them to manipulate erroneous and naive perceptions of 'perestroika', to the detriment of the Western alliances. The distinction between the US vision of an enlarged Europe based upon Western values, and the Soviet vision of a neutral socialist Europe stretching from the Atlantic to the Urals, has been completely lost from sight..."


Ex-communists gain first government posts in reunited Berlin

"BERLIN (AP) -- Former communists will help run city government in Berlin for the first time since Germany was reunited under an accord reached Thursday.

The Social Democrats and the Party of Democratic Socialism agreed on the main points of a coalition giving the ex-communists their first share of power in the German capital since reunification in 1990..."


THE URGENT NEED TO RECONSIDER PREVAILING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT RUSSIA AND CHINA

"US Policymakers have recklessly accepted the premise the Russia and China are no longer their enemies, but are rather potential allies and partners fully deserving of US support. Only countries like Iran, Iraq and North Korea - which (ironically, in this context) work secretly with Russia and China - are still considered potential adversaries..."

"US Policymakers should urgently re-examine their assumptions about the 'progress' of Russia and China 'towards democracy'. They should take account of Sino-Russian strategy and should recognize that the long-term strategic, political and economic threat comes from a Sino-Russian axis and associated participants like North Korea, Iran, Iraq and Syria. The Russian and Chinese leaders are still committed to their objective of world domination and believe that, disguised as 'democrats', in accordance with Leninist teaching, they will be able to achieve it."

7 posted on 03/15/2002 7:20:13 PM PST by Orion78
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To: Pokey78
Here here....I propose that Great Britain be put up for the 51st state.....and that we annex Saudi Arabia as a U.S. Territory......give the euroweenies something to really whine about.....that will drive a wedge in the EU and we won't have basing problems for Desert Storm II. Coming to a theatre near baghdad soon...the sequel .....
8 posted on 03/15/2002 7:37:18 PM PST by krogers58
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To: Pokey78
There are three countries that don't take orders from the Eurotrash: us, the Brits, and the Aussies. Germany is becoming as yellow as France.
9 posted on 03/15/2002 7:40:38 PM PST by dougherty
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To: dighton
"Isolated from the Euroweenies? Good, the English should be proud."

You are known by the enemies you have.

10 posted on 03/15/2002 7:44:19 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Kermit
Who created the United Nations?

"16 out of 17 of the AMERICANS that were involved in creating the U . N. were later identified, in sworn testimony, as secret communist agents.

The first Secretary General was the AMERICAN Alger Hiss. Alger Hiss served time in prison pursuant to his involvement in a Communist spy ring..."

11 posted on 03/15/2002 7:46:09 PM PST by Orion78
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To: Don Myers
Is Euroweenie the new name for Vienna Sausages? Inquiring minds . . .
13 posted on 03/15/2002 8:21:15 PM PST by Kermit
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To: Kermit
See the chapter of Holidays in Hell called Among the Euro-Weenies.
14 posted on 03/15/2002 8:25:48 PM PST by dighton
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To: Kermit
"Is Euroweenie the new name for Vienna Sausages? "

The beef comes from sick European cows.

15 posted on 03/15/2002 9:34:22 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Pokey78
Some of those Euro-weenies that are grandfathers and great-grandfathers should tell the younger European generations what happens when America gets pissed off at Europe.
16 posted on 03/15/2002 10:00:16 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: dougherty
"There are three countries that don't take orders from the Eurotrash: us, the Brits, and the Aussies."

What about the Canadians, the sons of the true North?
17 posted on 03/15/2002 10:11:41 PM PST by wretchard
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Screw the Europeans....I'm tired of their anti-American rants. IMO, we should have left Germany in ruins after WWII and sent France a bill for services rendered in freeing her people. BTW, an EU army is a joke. The Germans have been pacified due their horrible Nazi past and the French,....well, the French Army is still recovering from that ass whoppin' the Germans gave 'em in WWII. I would hope that these two nations could hold our coats when we go to battle, but I'm a fraid they would screw that up as well.
18 posted on 03/15/2002 10:21:32 PM PST by willgetsome
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To: Texasforever
My current girl friend and soon to be wife and who is English agrees with you. Watching Monty Python and the Holy Grail a while back, she was extremely disappointed in the ending. I asked her why, and she replied that she wanted to see the damned frogs get slaughtered. She's usually a very kind and anti-violence kind of person (hates guns), so I was amazed at her vehement bile towards our wonderful Gallic friends (sarcasm). She responded that all English hate the Frenchies. She said they hate most Europeans also. She added they don't like the Irish too much either, so I had to remind her of my Irish ancestry. She responded, "oh well I do like you".
19 posted on 03/16/2002 4:08:33 AM PST by driftless
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To: driftless
HAVE NO FEAR AFTER WE FINISH WITH IRAQ THE A## KISSING WILL BEGIN.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

20 posted on 03/16/2002 6:27:02 AM PST by chiefqc
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