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Reposting my comment from this thread...

For review purposes, let's go over the list of crimes, mistakes, poor condict, and hubris in this small event. I know I'm being "reckless" in doing so, but I still think it's important.

The FBI "postively identifies" a passenger in a moving vehicle from a moving vehicle. (They are so sure of this that they approach the vehicle with assault weapons drawn.) They were wrong. A simple mistake that can happen at any time to anyone. No problems... until they drew their guns.
The ... agent has his finger ON THE TRIGGER before he is ready to shoot. (Unless they want to admit that they were approaching with the intent to fire.)
The ... agent points his weapon at something he does not intend to shoot. (again, giving them the benefit of the doubt. I'm TRYING to be kind, here!)
The agent could not have seen a weapon, but fires his own anyway. Most local police are better trained than this. A competent LEO recognizes the possibility of seat belts or other innocent items that a citizen might be reaching for. If accompanied by other officers, as the FBI agent was, they yell "gun!" first, then draw, then decide whether to shoot first, or wait for a moment. (This is from an officer, not my exerience with the show "Cops")
Upon the discharge of the assault weapon at point blank range into the face of an unarmed anderage citizen, they refuse him medical attention for 40-60 minutes. [T]his is a 'bad thing'. A 10-second search would have verified that safety and security of the medical personnel, LEO's, and public were not at stake, and could clear the medics.
The FBI, upon discovering that the unarmed citizen they have 'identified', shot without provocation, and refused medical attention is NOT ACTUALLY the robbery suspect, then allow the medics through. This indicates that they intentionally refuse medical care to suspects... but thankfully not innocent civilians. Again, this is a 'bad thing'.
The FBI refuses to disclose any information, even though it is obvious that this will not interfere with the robbery investigation. They apparently feel that the public isn't worthy of knowing what they have done until they can put a positive spin on it, cover up any possible evidence, and prevent any 'unfortunate' testimony. (The episodes where they repeatedly changed their story were actually noticed! Shocking!)
This hasn't happened YET, of course, but it's an easy prediction to make: The yet-to-be-named agent will be reprimanded in a news conference, temporarily reassigned, and will suffer no further consequences. This is standard FBI procedure, if not policy. It is also the standard that virtually every federal agency (as well as Congress) clings to desperately.

Those who are properly trained in the use of firearms do not rest their finger on the trigger, nor do they allow the barrel to point in any direction that might be unsafe. Those who refuse treatment suspects (and some reports mention gloating about it) deserve to lose their job entirely.

The three major points here:
1. The laws of the land should apply to all citizens equally. If any of us had mishandled a firearm during a gunshow or at home (or any acceptable reason to have a weapon drawn, just like when a pursued perp has shown a weapon)... and someone got shot in the face... then we would be in jail, facing fines, and would certainly be fired if handling of the firearm was a part of our job (like a salesman or instructor).

2. The FBI needs to stop covering their agents' crimes. They serve the public. The FBI should be open and honest when mistakes happen, and should demote, prosecute and fire agents when merited.

3. The FBI needs to ensure that those who need medical attention get it as soon as possible, whether they are suspects or not. The teacher at Columbine died and the kid in this story could have died because they are not willing to perform the same tasks that local officers and firemen do every single day: go into an area to try to save a life, even if an element of risk exists. (I'll refrain from using the WTC as the basis of comparison, again to be as accomodating as possible in my arguments.)

Rather than serve the public with truth, honor, and self-improvement, the federal agencies (as well as Congress) prefer to lie, obfuscate, 'CYA', and show their disdain for the opinions and welfare of the public. The icing on the cake: the annual demand for more of our hard-earned dollars so they can 'do more'. Boys, we ain't gonna put up with it much longer.

The FBI corruption has been going on for a long time. Remember when Clinton wanted to dump the Secret Service and use the FBI for his personal protection?

The only way it can get cleaned up, IMHO, is for a President to be committed to fixing it (Bush is apparently not interested). It would do a lot of good to bring in an "outsider" to run the bureau. A police chief (one who worked his way up, not a political hack) from a small to medium sized department would be a better choice than this Mueller selection.

Accountabilty,ethics & integrity all the things the FBI leadership lacks, look at the supervisors Lynne A. Hunt, FBI Baltimore and Dave Midura,if the shooter was from the FBI Annapolis,MD. field office.

Thank you for your post #23.

I didn't read an article which stated that the feebs neglected to get medical attention for the victim for that long. This is the second time i've seen that referred to in a response, though. If that's true, it makes my blood boil at everyone involved, including the AA county deputies who came to the scene.

That's as bad as anything I've heard about this case so far.