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Suit: Iraq masterminded attack/Entire Oklahoma City plot allegedly 'aided by agents' of Baghdad
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, March 15, 2002 | By Jon Dougherty

Posted on 03/15/2002 1:12:33 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: xm177e2
That's why they were the "National Socialist German Workers Party"

"Socialist" and "Workers" are commie words, "National" and "German" are fascist words.

101 posted on 03/18/2002 12:32:10 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Ubonic
Nazis = National Socialist Party = left wing. Like I said, we already discussed this on another thread.
102 posted on 03/18/2002 12:36:05 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: all
As someone who lost a parent in the bombing I would like to offer my perspective. I don't care if one or fifty people were involved. I just want to know. If it takes a lawsuit by a kook like klayman then so be it. But I would like answers to these questions:

Why were reports that people saw the bomb squad that morning quickly squelched?

Why have the reports of several arab men with McVeigh been neglected?

How could someone smart enough to pull off such a huge crime, be dumb enough to get caught with such on "obvious" paper trail documenting his guilt?

And why was the site of the largest terrorist act(at that time) in American history so quickly demolished and hauled off to a secure site?

Whether McVeigh was involved with Iraq or even our own government, it is obvious that there is more to this story. If you don't believe that then I would like to discuss with you some property I have for sale.

103 posted on 03/18/2002 12:42:04 PM PST by okkev68
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To: Ubonic
Are you the suicidal dyslexic twin who tried to kill his brother by accident?

Schumer has clearly adopted a liberal position re:RKBA long ago. You can twist it, turn it, makes little difference to one that will not accept facts.

Do you want to know how I REALLY spell "lefties,leftys?" I'll show the pics some time...

You seem to enjoy personal attacks. Fine, Nancy boy,most cyber-punks do. Sorry I missed you post to me that was pulled. Bet it was really,really MEAN! HA! Whimps are SO funny!

"Wellstone is a moderate," you claim. HAHA! "Senator Welfare?" You have crapped in your own foxhole so many times here I do not know why you continue to post.

RE:Clinton's statement about NRA. Guess you do not recall the memo from Steve Stockman to the NRA and how Clinton played it? How about the meeting in Michigan that Tanya Metaksa went to and Clinton played it for all it was worth. You know absolutely NOTHING about RKBA nor any of the other topics you have tried to discuss.

As to your little child-like remarks? Make them to my face or don't say them. Can't you find one of the "liberal boards" to post your Jerry Springer-like thoughts?

104 posted on 03/18/2002 1:08:51 PM PST by donozark
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To: okkev68
I am in your corner 100%. Charles Key, Carol Howe, and hundreds of other, well-intentioned people have raised the very concerns you have. Even ABC! Nothing more than another "Clinton news station." Yet nothing comes to pass. No idea what JUDICIAL WATCH suit will bring forth. If history is our teacher? Not much...
105 posted on 03/18/2002 1:12:22 PM PST by donozark
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To: JumpinJackFlash
Let them supply the evidence. Why shouldn't we hear it? If it is foolish, they will be revealed as charlatans. OTOH, maybe there is a kernel of truth here.
106 posted on 03/18/2002 1:27:14 PM PST by rebdov
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To: donozark
I wish someone would ask Schumer, who is Jewish, if the Israeli people should be allowed to have guns? EVERY Israeli has a gun because of self defense. He would say "OF COURSE"... The liberals are such hypocrites!
107 posted on 03/18/2002 1:27:26 PM PST by Ann Archy
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To: Ann Archy
Yes, "Shifty" Schumer is one of the worst. A gun-grabber since his early days in Brooklyn-and proud of it. Yet, if anyone proposes a cut in aid to Israel-much of it used for weapons purchases, he goes ballistic! Like most liberals, it's "Do as I say, not as I do." He has however, tempered his remarks somewhat since Sept.11. But just look at what it took!
108 posted on 03/18/2002 3:54:00 PM PST by donozark
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To: donozark
Schumer has clearly adopted a liberal position re:RKBA long ago. You can twist it, turn it, makes little difference to one that will not accept facts.

Schumer is a gun owner. He claims to support the RKBA. He does not. His view of gun control is similar to that of Adolph Hitler in 1938 when he ordered the end of gun ownership by the Jewish people in Germany. He would rather only military and the police be armed. His position on gun ownership is as far from being liberal as possible.

Do you want to know how I REALLY spell "lefties,leftys?" I'll show the pics some time...

You seem to enjoy personal attacks. Fine, Nancy boy,most cyber-punks do. Sorry I missed you post to me that was pulled. Bet it was really,really MEAN! HA! Whimps are SO funny!

I'm a spelling nazi. so sue me.

"Wellstone is a moderate," you claim. HAHA! "Senator Welfare?" You have crapped in your own foxhole so many times here I do not know why you continue to post.

Wellstone is a liberal Democrat. He has some liberal ideas.. But still a member of the Democrat Party. He sits on the moderate center of the American political specrtum. A moderate is someone who rejects both extremes. As for him being pro-welfare, so is President Bush.

RE:Clinton's statement about NRA. Guess you do not recall the memo from Steve Stockman to the NRA and how Clinton played it?

Stockman was the congressman who was somehow involved in the OKC bombing, having been informed about it from a militia leader (Norm Olson?) shortly after it happened? I forget. I just woke up my brain is jello.

How about the meeting in Michigan that Tanya Metaksa went to and Clinton played it for all it was worth. You know absolutely NOTHING about RKBA nor any of the other topics you have tried to discuss.

I've read the 2nd Amendment.. it's pretty clear to me what the RKBA is all about.

As to your little child-like remarks? Make them to my face or don't say them. Can't you find one of the "liberal boards" to post your Jerry Springer-like thoughts?

Nahh.. I am a 'freeper' of many years. It's an addiction.

109 posted on 03/19/2002 3:39:26 AM PST by Ubonic
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To: Shooter 2.5
Nazis = National Socialist Party = left wing. Like I said, we already discussed this on another thread.

That is like saying the Republican Party is Comunist because they are pro-welfare, want to save Socialist Security and give the military industrial complex huge contracts.. You should read a few books on the Nazis. They were the right-wing. This is why you see the far-right today still worshipping Hitler.

110 posted on 03/19/2002 3:43:32 AM PST by Ubonic
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To: xm177e2
No, the Nazis were moderates. Really! Fascism was sold at the time as the "third way," BETWEEN capitalism and communism/socialism.

Economic centrists, perhaps.. Reactionary rightists on social policy. Social darwinism. Their enemies were on the Left, the Nazis were the conservative rightwing. A great book on the Nazis is Backing Hitler by Robert Gellately. It describes the propaganda and social dynamics that enabled to the holocaust.

111 posted on 03/19/2002 3:53:10 AM PST by Ubonic
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To: js1138
I wondered how a couple of yokels could put this bomb/building matchup together. I believe they had technical help.

They were trained in explosives manucfacture in the military. That's where McVeigh met Nichols.

112 posted on 03/19/2002 3:55:27 AM PST by Ubonic
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To: Ubonic
No, McVeigh/Nichols were not EOD. McVeigh IFV crewman. Nichols a mechanic.

No, Steve Stockman NOT involved in OKC bombing. That was my point! Clinton pointed to a fax Stockman sent to NRA HQ as both having prior knowledge of OKC bombing. In fact, clock on PC set wrong. Clinton played it for all it was worth. Hence, Clinton blamed NRA for OKC bombing before the dust even settled.

Nazi's were in fact National Socialists. You can twist and turn it all you want.

Schumer may own a gun but that doesn't make him pro-RKBA. Sen. Rockefeller and Leahy own guns. Both liberals. Schumer has been anti-Second Amendment ALL his life. He brags about all the gun laws he helped get passed.

You claim to have been a "Freeper" for a long time. Yet your profile states last November is when you signed up.

If you believe Schumer and Wellstone not to be liberals then you must be somewhat left of a COMMUNIST!

Ever heard of the ADA? Americans for Democratic Action. A liberal org that rates Congressmen. Seems Schumer is in TOP 20 as being "most liberal." And how about the ACLU? Again a liberal/leftist org that places Schumer right up there with all the other liberals. The Liberal Party of NY endorsed Schumer for Senator in 1998

Your position continues to be inaccurate and laughable. Everyone knows Schumer is a liberal. He himself has stated so. Yet YOU know otherwise. Maybe it's because you keep telling yourself that?

113 posted on 03/19/2002 4:24:27 AM PST by donozark
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To: Ubonic
The Republican Party is pro-welfare? I'm sure you're wrong on that count.

I have read many times that the nazis were right wing. I also read it on the site that I was at the yesterday. My point has always been if they were calling themselves socialists then they were calling themselves left wing. That has always been my opinion. Sort of like your campaign to stop calling the democrats, liberals, By the way, I think I understand now why you were saying that the "liberals" are any thing but liberal.

114 posted on 03/19/2002 5:19:44 AM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: rebdov
That is not entirely true so I caution you. There were several arrests in Texas and in London of Middle Eastern 'suspects' who were later released. The suspects and the ACLU actually sued Reno's Justice Department and won over violations of civil rights.
115 posted on 03/19/2002 5:26:33 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: Ubonic
They were trained in explosives manucfacture in the military. That's where McVeigh met Nichols.

Doesn't fully explain the choice of buildings. For example, how did they get the engineering details of the potential targets? How did they finance the research?

116 posted on 03/19/2002 6:16:00 AM PST by js1138
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To: JohnHuang2
bump
117 posted on 03/19/2002 6:33:27 AM PST by VOA
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To: JohnGalt
If you are indeed right, I stand ocrrected, and I apologize. Since I did not know this, I will assume that many others do not either. All the more reason to have their testimony.
118 posted on 03/19/2002 9:47:29 AM PST by rebdov
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To: js1138
They were trained in explosives manucfacture in the military. That's where McVeigh met Nichols.

Doesn't fully explain the choice of buildings. For example, how did they get the engineering details of the potential targets? How did they finance the research?

My guess would be the FBI. All roads lead back to the Elohim City terrorist training camp.

119 posted on 03/20/2002 4:39:16 AM PST by Ubonic
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To: Shooter 2.5
The Republican Party is pro-welfare? I'm sure you're wrong on that count.

I have yet to hear any Republican say that social welfare programmes should be abolished.

I have read many times that the nazis were right wing. I also read it on the site that I was at the yesterday. My point has always been if they were calling themselves socialists then they were calling themselves left wing. That has always been my opinion. Sort of like your campaign to stop calling the democrats, liberals, By the way, I think I understand now why you were saying that the "liberals" are any thing but liberal.

Right.

120 posted on 03/20/2002 4:41:40 AM PST by Ubonic
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