A Disturbing Letter from a Saudi

FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | March 15, 2K2 | Saudi Citizen to David Horowitz

[cicero's_son]

Stop it! You're killing me today.

First, you criticize someone for reporting hearsay, now you're calling Horowitz an opportunist!

Hilarious. For your next act, why don't you accuse someone of peddling loopy conspiracy theories. More unintentional irony and self-parody, please! We love it.

[cicero's_son]

Bump.

Raimondo is positively overflowing with unintentional irony and self-parody today.

[Lent]

LOL! Yes, his current effort, provocatively titled,"ISRAEL VERSUS AMERICA: The secret war is now out in the open" may set new records for the sheer audaciousness and brazeness of the lies and innuendo packaged as reality.

[UbIwerks]

David Horowitz has REMOVED THIS FROM HIS OWN WEBSITE It's still on FrontPage, as of this posting.

I just checked front page and it's still on there. This Justin fellow sounds so hysterical.

[Travis McGee]

Once they get a nuclear weapon, it will be deliverable.

All they need to do is put it into one of the million uninspected shipping containers entering the USA every day.

[rdb3]

Yeah, you got the whatever part right.

[rdb3]

In my opinion the man is . . .

Thank you. That's all I needed to know.

[mv1]

DITTO

[Justin Raimondo]

Look again.... it's off the front, but still on the website. WorldNetDaily pulled the link to it after a flood of letters, and probably a threat of legal action. The idiot who posted this garbage here has also endangered FR.....

[Twodees]

Wait, "pre-existing religious prejudices"? You actually think that Islam is a religion? Some study is in order for you, my man. Islam is a cult aimed at the subjugation of the entire world. The people who subscribe to its teachings are all aware of this. The rest of us should wake up to that fact as well, especially Bush.

[Twodees]

The only way to kill a cult is to kill the cultists. The followers who aren't serious cultists find a way to distance themselves once it gets bloody. Nuking their "holy place" would have little effect. They would still face in its direction to pray. Just my theory.

I do think that the kingdom where the city is located is our enemy though. They're quiet about it, but their citizens and their money have been behind everything that has been done against us for quite awhile.

[Twodees]

I think the solution to the problem of how to deport illegals is very obvious. Deportation doesn't require a criminal or even a civil trial. Immigration and the issuance of visas isn't done by the judiciary, it's under the aegis of a federal agency operating under its own set of regulations.

People here on a visa are receiving a conditionally granted privilege. That privilege isn't an inalienable human right, it is a privilege which can be withdrawn for any or for no reason. People detained for deportation who have entered the country on a visa have no right to a trial because they are not being charged with an offense which carries the penalty of loss of life, liberty or property. They are being sent home, not jailed, executed or forced to forfeit property, therefore they have no right to counsel nor to a trial.

This whole quandary which is puzzling you so is a game conjured up out of thin air by attorneys seeking a payday. One simple test case, carried to the SCOTUS could settle this once and for all. We certainly can simply deport them all, every single one of them we could catch.

People who came here without obeying the regulations can be just as easily ejected. Until an attorney can show that an illegal alien is being deprived by any level of government in this country, of life, liberty or property by being deported, none of them have any standing to demand even a trial. There is no inalienable human right o freely enter any country on earth without obeying that country's requirements for permission to stay. How anyone could ever think for one minute that there is such a right is amazing. For such a right to exist, there can be no soveriegnty of nations at all.

[rdb3]

We certainly can simply deport them all, every single one of them we could catch.

That's just it! You made sense, but, you didn't adequately address how we go out and find all of the illegals. That's what I'm getting at. How do we find those who are here illegaly?

[ventana]

How do we begin to deport? I think we employ the laws that are on the books. Where do we go to conduct drug sweeps? To inner city street corners, to high school street corners, etc. Where do we go to detect underage drinking? To bars. Why not start looking for illegals at the nail salons; vegetable markets; farms; butcher shops, etc., where the illegals might congregate. Ask them for documentation. Stop at the falafal stand. Check the registrars at colleges. I know this sounds extreme, but we have an extreme situation. We have an enemy who lives within our midst. Don't we have an obligation to protect ourselves? I remember when I was a teenager, factories were customarily swept to check if the workers were legal or not. One could argue about that, whether it was kind, or not. I suppose. But, a nation has a right to protect itself. Having lived near the border of Jersey City, in a town where hardly anyone was American born, I can tell you many, many people are here who are undocumented. Some admitted it to me. South and Central Americans; Asians; Middle Easterners. And, when I would go into the markets of some of these people, they were outright hostile to me. Not all, but many. Actually, the one group who were unfailingly and consistently polite were the Indians. I say we have an obligation to check and document each and every one of these people. With military precision, which is anathema to the INS. V's wife.

[oswegodeee]

Just for the sake of conversation in this thread.. I lived in Daytona Beach, Florida in the mid to late 70's.. I lived in a townhouse complex less than a mile from Emry Riddle University (aeronautical university.) This particular complex as I found out after moving in housed many Iranians, Saudis, Iraqians,Libians and many many young men from Pakistan.. I would see their women dressed in black with heads and faces covered but they would never speak.. But on the other hand the young men spoke perfect English with hardly a trace of an accent, and were extremely educated.. they drove expensive cars i.e Jaguars, Mercedes, BMW's, Triumphs etc.. they lived it up well here in the USA.

I knew even then that something wasn't quite right,

I told a friend of mine, who was going to Emry at the time, for training to become an airline pilot, that I felt these guys were up to no good.. He said "well their government was paying them to go to school here, all expenses and $10,000.00 a month to spend."

How did I know they spoke excellent English you ask. Well I had an argument with one of them that had taken my assigned parking space and he responding to me in absolutely perfect English.. also at one of the Townhouse socials,at the clubhouse, several of the men ( no wives)had come,and they were talking with other Americans who lived in the complex and they too spoke beautiful English, bearly any trace of an accent..

hmmmm, well trained I supposed in order to fit in and not be conspicuous.

I now know ,that even then, plans were on the roll for the destruction of America..

the idea: Train them here, learn all about Americans, then without a warning shot, (due to the fact that they were indeed able to fit in) just take us down from the inside..

[oswegodeee]

Sir! Just some food for your thinking process... My son-in-law's Uncle lives in Saudi.. He was ameican born, of Irish/English parents..He is now a Saudi Citizen by choice, and a Muslim also, and has taken a Muslim name.. He speaks perfect English naturally, as does he speak Arabic..He is extremely Educateted as he is a director/administrator at the Hospital. He lives amongst Arab Muslims, works with them in the King Hussein Hospital in Jetta... loves it there.. and is a practicing Muslim.. go figure! It could have been someone just like him, who wrote the letter to Derschowitz, perhaps trying to give some insite as to the mindset of Muslim people..

[Twodees]

These people stick out like sore thumbs. As much as it may irritate civil libertarians, police have to be allowed to routinely ask for ID from people who fit an ethnic profile. All of these people have to have the same sort of routine contact with government agencies that legal residents and citizens have. A policy of requiring anyone in a government agency who works with the public to ask for identification from people who fit any ethnic profile except for that of native born American citizen would smoke out most of them. I mean any clerk who works issuing licenses of any kind or administering any social service at all. If an illegal couldn't get a new ID card without satisfying the issuer that he is here legally, sooner or later, he will be unable to do business that he needs to do.

To me, this isn't just a wartime concern. People who abuse the privilege of visiting here mustn't be allowed to do so with impunity. That makes a mockery of the status of citizens. People who actually think that "ethnic profiling" is a violation of our rights will of course disagree strongly.

It appears to me that this whole thing is fairly simple at its root, but it's being complicated by the legal contortionists who ply their trade in courtrooms where these cases shouldn't even be heard. They're being heard because of some unconstitutional legislation sponsored by Teddy Kennedy and others.

It's as though some lawyers have told us that there can be no solution to the illegal alien problem without a terrible violation of the human rights of everyone involved. IMO, that's patently absurd.

While I can't tell at a glance whether or not an alien is here legally, I certainly can tell a Saudi from a South Carolinian. So can you, and so can any cop.

[tm22721]

The reason that Saudis openly flaunt the US, is that they know they are the world's true superpower so long as oil is king.

BUMP

[Don Myers]

"They will detonate a nuke here soon,"

I have been wondering about the next strike, if there is one. They may use a nuke or bio weapon, but at this moment, they seem powerless.