A Disturbing Letter from a Saudi

FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | March 15, 2K2 | Saudi Citizen to David Horowitz

[hellinahandcart]

Oh honestly. I know at least one freeper who can figure out where an email came from, hard to believe Horowitz doesn't know anyone who can do the same, or put him in touch with someone else who can.

And again, this email is not a warning. It's an opinion. Everybody's got one of those.

[Justin Raimondo]

" I was with Hussein Ibish and Hamid Faraoui that day, watching them cheering and singing, then denouncing the attacks on TV later that day."

What's wrong with FR these days -- is the level of intelligence exhibited on this site taking a rapid nosedive? Hussein Ibish is the director of the Arab-American Anti-Discrimination League, kind of the NAACP of the Arab community, and a man whose views are the exact opposite of what this fabrication states. He is an American, and is already consulting with his lawyers, I imagine.

[Countyline]

There are cafes where one can rent a few minutes of time on independent computers and we know that we set up our own accounts with hotmail or yahoo etc. Identity is not necessarily true or correct. There is much that is not as it seems. The enemy of 911 used our technology in a new way and used it to our major loss.

A closed mind is no more the answer than a naive gullible one.

[scratchgolfer]

Why are you attacking a true Conservative like David Horowitz?

[Justin Raimondo]

David Horowitz has REMOVED THIS FROM HIS OWN WEBSITE, no doubt because he's been threatened with a lawsuit. Why is it still up here, leaving Jim Robinson and FR liable?

If Horowitz is a "true" anything, it's a True Opportunist out to make a buck.

[scratchgolfer]

Your own articles I must note have lots of hearsay, very few facts and are full of slander. And do you afford Jewish advocacy groups the same latitude you so generously extend to Muslim groups? Somehow I doubt it from reading your columns and comments here.

[hellinahandcart]

A closed mind is no more the answer than a naive gullible one.

(Sigh)

Okay. What, exactly, in this email would you like me to "open my mind" to? Since even you agree it doesn't cover any new ground.

[rdb3]

This piece is nothing but pure propaganda from Horowitz. He's nothing more than a shameless hustler trying to turn an alledged anonomous e-mail into something more. I wish he would go back to the Communist Party and ply his phony nonsense over there.

First, on what do you base your claim that this is nothing more than propaganda? Is it just your opinion, or, do you have something more substantial.

Two, what is the source of your vitriol against Horowitz?

And, third, why would you wish him back to the Left? Is he not useful for us on the Right? Should those of us who have been on the Left totally abandon coming over to the Right after coming to our senses?

So, tell me please. I'm dying to know.

[rdb3]

First off, calm down and breathe a little. I'm not going to engage you when you are operating off of pure emotion.

THEN come back and get at me.

[hellinahandcart]

There are cafes where one can rent a few minutes of time on independent computers

And if the email could be traced to a cafe in the other hemisphere, that would add to its credibility. Not conclusively, of course.

[hellinahandcart]

David Horowitz has REMOVED THIS FROM HIS OWN WEBSITE

It's still on FrontPage, as of this posting.

[rdb3]

. . .but since it is well-known that Horowitz has no shame, it would be a waste of breath.

And I suppose you do, with your pansy, limp-wristed, panty wearing, sissified, PUNK so-called "AntiWar" site.

Puh-leeze. You bring shame to manhood. Go out and find your pair cuz someone stole them from you.

[Countyline]

It has not been my intention to 'put upon' you, merely to express that the email spotlighted directly the ground upon which muslims and Islam stands.

Seeing with clear (fresh) eyes allows much of the chaff to fall away. Make our voice heard and do whatever we can to not accept the guff ... while realizing the attitudes of Islam regarding America are not the tolerant attitudes with which our press is protraying them. The subtlety is there ... (be discerning) ... it is the crucial part. Individually we can do little; however, we must influence those within our arena and do what we can. Being prepared for further happenings and alert to our surroundings.

Perhaps I misunderstood you ... it seemed you were of the 'chunk it in the trash can' point of view.

[hellinahandcart]

Perhaps I misunderstood you ... it seemed you were of the 'chunk it in the trash can' point of view.

No, I am of the "it doesn't pay to think the email is really from a Saudi, just because it says so" and the "doesn't tell me anything I couldn't have learned months ago from other sources and my own experience, therefore it does not matter if the author is or is not a Saudi" schools of thought.

[Lent]

If Horowitz is a "true" anything, it's a True Opportunist out to make a buck.

For a guy who engages in hearsay as a fine art you lack even a modicum of respectibility on this issue. Secondly, you're the opportunist since you've been second only to the Arab Islamics and neo-nazis in exploiting 9/11 with that cockeyed Israeli students story.

[Countyline]

It is much like the hundreds of anonymous vanities posted here on Free Republic ... only more succinct and on target.

Opinions (whether from vanities or so called expert commentators) are interpretations of events and motivations ... speculation and hypthesis ... some are substantiated better than others.

Simply a 'fiction' around reality. We project ... we predict ... based on our knowledge of the past and our ability to reason. The possibilities are multiple, some results are more dangerous than others. Passivity, complacency, and the belief the government is handling it is a defeating attitude. IMO

[Mojo-jo-jo]

First off, calm down and breathe a little. I'm not going to engage you when you are operating off of pure emotion.

THEN come back and get at me.

Um...OK...calm now. Whatever.

[Countyline]

We are at odds and ends ... perhaps our concepts are askew.

You discount source ...

I am more interested in the content ...

Ideas and thoughts can arise from previously unknown sources; sometimes timely, brilliant, trite, or refutable etc. While source is of note, it does not make or break the content.

We can adjust our knowledge to encompass an enlarged frame of reference or we can maintain a previous set of thinking. What is the worst thing that can happen?

Suffice it to say, we agree to hold different views.