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ATF Launches Probe of UN Machineguns
Gunweek.com ^ | March 10, 2002 | Dave Workman

Posted on 03/14/2002 7:53:50 AM PST by madfly

ATF Launches Probe of UN Machineguns

by Dave Workman
Senior Editor

Did the United Nations illegally import German-made Heckler & Koch MP5 submachineguns and issue them to United Nations (UN) Secretary General Kofi Annan’s security detail, even after being denied permission to do so by the US Department of State?

That is the question that federal investigators are exploring, and there is no small irony involved in the investigation. Last year, the UN hosted a global summit on the proliferation of small arms that was loudly protested by American gunowners, and more diplomatically rebuffed by the Bush Administration.

During a special meeting of the UN Security Council last July, Annan complained about the problems in regulating firearms: “There is no single tool of conflict so widespread, so easily available and so difficult to restrict as small arms.”

Several UN member states have banned the possession of private arms by their own citizens, and it appeared to American gun rights activists that the UN was planning to directly attack the US Constitution’s Second Amendment. For years, a fear expressed among some gun rights organizations has been that the UN would push a treaty on the US that would eviscerate individual gun rights in this country and overrule the Bill of Rights.

Outside the UN building in New York stands a sculpture of a Colt Python with its barrel bent and twisted, a statement to the international organization’s anti-gun philosophy.

But wanting to regulate, or ban, the private possession of firearms by citizens apparently poses no moral conflict with arming one’s own security personnel.

According to a Feb. 21 report in The Washington Times, the submachineguns have been brought into the country since 1998 without proper US government clearance. While UN officials claim they had an okay and that the guns were legally acquired, that’s not the story from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF).

While diplomatic issues may complicate the investigation, some issues are clear, among them being the fact that the US government does not consider the UN security service a “law enforcement organization.” Because of that, possession of automatic firearms by this security group is not permitted.

Apparently, the MP5 submachineguns are not the only interesting firearms in the possession of UN security staffers. Several other types of military assault weapons are reportedly used by this security team.

The UN reportedly first applied for permission to buy MP5s back in 1998, but the State Department turned down the request. Evidently, that did not stop the UN from bringing in the guns anyway, further adding to the irony of Annan’s stand against proliferation of small arms in 2001.

UN officials have claimed that their security service obtained all the proper licenses. Whether they are licensed or not—or by what state or federal agency—the guns may not be taken legally outside the UN building compound.

But The Washington Times reported that those guns frequently do travel away from UN headquarters, usually when security officers accompany Annan on trips around the city.

As reported in the Dec. 20, 2001 edition of Gun Week, machineguns are not the only security enjoyed by the anti-gun UN Secretary General. Late last year, Annan took delivery of a specially-equipped BMW 750iL, featuring bullet-proof armor and glass. The car was delivered in November, months after the UN’s anti-gun conference.

There is no diplomatic immunity for security officers assigned to protect UN delegates, so if the security officers are collared away from UN headquarters with the MP5s, they could face serious gun charges under state and federal law.

The report of the UN chief’s “hypocrisy” in this case is drawing unusual allied fire from both gun rights and anti-gun organizations.

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TOPICS: Announcements; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; deptofstate; guns; nra; un; unlist
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To: madfly

Cheap UN copy in NYC

Freeping the Real Deal in Malmo,Sweden

And by the way


21 posted on 03/14/2002 11:15:49 AM PST by Militiaman7
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To: Militiaman7;b4ranch
www.a-human-right.com

Ping!

22 posted on 03/14/2002 12:14:08 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: madfly;rightwing2;b4ranch;backhoe;american soldier
To the UN: Get the Hell Out
(Flash Video)

23 posted on 03/14/2002 12:17:16 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State;b4ranch;rightwing2;backhoe
if that link doesnt work, try this http://www.teesdale.com/get_out_1.html
24 posted on 03/14/2002 12:18:54 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: AnnaZ; Mercuria; NativeAmericanFemaleVet
You gotta see this, but not if your on caffine.
25 posted on 03/14/2002 12:19:48 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: FreeTally
"I hope some bystander catches this on video!"

Then, as we review and analyze said tape, it will become clear we do not see anything even remotely resembling gunfire from the un thugs, and determine they shot each other.

26 posted on 03/14/2002 12:24:22 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: MissAmericanPie;mardler; black jade; tallhappy; b4ranch; maui_hawaii; t-shirt; hopalong...
Get The Hell Out!

I like the video, its a nice touch!

27 posted on 03/14/2002 12:34:50 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: madfly
We can only hope that the BATF will call the FBI in on this one and give the UN the same treatment they did to Vernon Howells family, and Randy Weavers family....

L

28 posted on 03/14/2002 12:40:06 PM PST by Lurker
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To: madfly
STOP THE UN
29 posted on 03/14/2002 12:42:53 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: TADSLOS
The ATF investigating the UN is about as absurd as Iraq investigating Al Qaeda.

It's more like Al Qaeda investigating Iraq.

30 posted on 03/14/2002 12:49:24 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
It's more like Al Qaeda investigating Iraq.

Good catch.

31 posted on 03/14/2002 12:56:41 PM PST by TADSLOS
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To: madfly; All
Question for discussion:

Doesn't the NYPD have a LARGE detail of officers assigned to the U.N. for security purposes? I could be wrong on this -- can any New Yorkers on the board confirm or deny this?

If that is a fact, why are there U.N. security details at all?

32 posted on 03/14/2002 2:11:37 PM PST by SR71A
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To: Fish out of Water
index bump

Thanks, FOOW, but the bump lists links are all dead, last time I checked today.

I don't know what the new method of accessing them will be.


33 posted on 03/14/2002 3:06:36 PM PST by madfly
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To: SR71A
Good Question!
34 posted on 03/14/2002 3:07:16 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
I think that the ATF should fine the UN folks for breaking the law. How about 100 years of UN dues? That should be equitable.
35 posted on 03/14/2002 3:09:31 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: Euro-American Scum; pete-r-bilt; B4Ranch; AnnaZ

36 posted on 03/14/2002 3:43:32 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: Carry_Okie
Here's an UNrelated update showing how deeply they feel about small, er, automatic weapons.

37 posted on 03/14/2002 4:09:27 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
Bump
38 posted on 03/14/2002 4:10:08 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
If you go here and click on the links you can still reach the bump list topics.
39 posted on 03/14/2002 4:15:14 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: madfly
This is why the diplomats should not be given immunity from prosecution. They can break any law they want to. Asking the ATF for permission was just a formality. They couldn've imported as many machine guns as they could get through customs, without fear of prosecution.
40 posted on 03/14/2002 5:06:46 PM PST by monkeyshine
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