Posted on 03/13/2002 5:29:58 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
If you read the rest of 401 you would see that this not not translate to open borders. What it does is push the pre-travel inspection/security process out to include foriegn travel to Mexico and Canada. This makes all the sense in the world to me since we can not possibly completely seal off our north and south borders, even if that were the policy.
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What it does is push the pre-travel inspection/security process out to include foriegn travel to Mexico and Canada. This makes all the sense in the world to me since we can not possibly completely seal off our north and south borders, even if that were the policy.This brings to mind an old song made popular in the movie
It is a backdoor way to grant amnesty without calling it amnesty. It allows the administration to say there is no NEW amnesty, but still let the criminals have more time.
The only people who are shocked by this, are the ones who didn't parse the earlier statements about amnesty properly. They still haven't learned that you have to parse every word of every statement and try to figure out how many ways it can b interpurated. It is the only way to know what the administration is saying.
DONE!
If in 10 years illegal immigration has abated except by
means of legalization or amnesty, I will kiss your posterior
in a public place of your choosing.
We have been through this same dance before, I was implying
that it is wishful thinking to believe that this legislation
will make one bit of difference. It is already against the law
to be an illegal immigrant. And as you probably have observed
that hasn't meant didley squat. Neither will this law.
OK, it costs a thousand bucks to get started ('bout a hundred 1 gram vials of coke...)
(ii) entered the United States before May 5, 1988, resided in the United States on May 5, 1988, and is not a lawful permanent resident; and...
And as long as you didn't enter the country more than 14 years ago......
Play kill the cracker....
I responded to the issue of the feasability study and pointed out that it was a step toward widening the security net where we attempt to detect infiltration into the US via the North American continent by terrorist or known enemies of the US.
I also have stated on numerous occasions that I do not believe in amnesty as a policy, but that I reserve judgement of GWB and others until the end of the game, or when it is obvious what the big picture strategy is. Believe it or not there are conservative arguments for, as well as against, a limited amnesty. When you understand that either way it comes down, there are costs and benefits, then suddenly if the issue goes against your preferences, at least you know there is an up side. The current admin is smart and is playing high stakes poker to bring this country back to center right despite the Dasholes and Gephards out there trying to obstruct at any price. They will have to play hardall sometimes and the will have to play politics other times.
So far, while I haven't seen all the good legislation come through signed that I would prefer (thanks in large part to an obstructionist Senate), I also note that I have not seen bad legislature come through. While it all gets talked about and peoples blood pressure gets all worked up over things, CFR, Amnesty, and such mostly wind up stuck in committee and die. The education bill may be a mild exception to the rule.
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