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Details unfold in FBI mix-up
The Baltimore Sun ^ | March 13, 2002 | Gail Gibson

Posted on 03/13/2002 4:43:25 PM PST by Lloyd227

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:06 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

FBI agents involved in the mistaken traffic stop and shooting of an unarmed Pasadena man March 1 had a photograph of the actual bank robbery suspect they sought and earlier that day had discovered that an air pistol, not a handgun, apparently was used in the holdup, court records show.

Those details, contained in an FBI affidavit in the bank robbery case, could play a central role in the investigations into the shooting of Joseph C. Schultz, as authorities examine how much federal agents knew about the real suspect they were tracking and how dangerous they thought he was.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; fbi; homelanddefense; lawenforcement; swat
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These jerks who call themselves "agents" need to be put in their place. This is simply disgraceful, worse is that it's not an isolated incident.
1 posted on 03/13/2002 4:43:25 PM PST by Lloyd227
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To: *Donut Watch
index bump
2 posted on 03/13/2002 4:46:34 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: Lloyd227
This is a picture of the weapon that the kid (Eagle Scout) was shot in the face with. Feds are using these in routine LE operations in suburbia.

My suggestion: Have something just as powerful in your own home, teach everyone you know or love how to use it, pass it down to your children and never let anyone take it away from you.

3 posted on 03/13/2002 4:54:15 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: ratcat; OKCSubmariner; Donald Stone
BTTT
4 posted on 03/13/2002 5:01:55 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: MarkWar
Here you go... I might say however, that experience I had with field agents showed me that they do have some good guys out there. They were investigating corrupt city cops in Philadelphia.
5 posted on 03/13/2002 5:10:18 PM PST by blackdog
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To: Lloyd227,Uncle Bill,Fred Mertz,zog,Inspector Harry Callahan,ratcat,rdavis84,honway,golitely,Donal
This is a statement of my opinion:

Do not worry. FBI Director Mueller and Attorney General AShcroft will protect the FBI agents no matter what they do including murder and maiming innocents. Just ask Lon Horiuchi from Ruby Ridge.

The Nuremburg defense still works for FBI agents carrying out unlawful orders or acting unlawfully on their own.

Civil Rights and Constitutional guarantees for the peasant citizens mean nothing to Mueller and Ashcroft and Freeh and Reno. Just ask Richard Jewel. Only the elites,Congressmen on intell committees like Gary Condit, FBI and DOJ agents and officials have rights any more.

Because of their negligence, arrogance and corruption, the FBI and DOJ under HW Bush, Clinton and now GW Bush created and caused the problems that they now say can only be solved if we give up more of our freedoms.

If the FBI offices should get attacked and wiped out by ME terrorists, will innocent Americans be better or worse off?? Which is better, being "protected" by a corrupt FBI or not having an FBI at all anymore to squander your tax dollars and take away your freedoms?

I predict that the FBI will become the gestapo for the AntiChrist, the enforcers for world government paid for by global taxes someday if they continue on their present course.

6 posted on 03/13/2002 5:31:05 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Lloyd227
Another FBI agent, Christopher Braga, shot Schultz that day.
Remember that name forever. If he comes to your town, make sure word gets out.
7 posted on 03/13/2002 5:33:12 PM PST by eno_
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To: Lloyd227;nunya bidness
Lloyd227,Thanks for taking the time to find and post this update article.
8 posted on 03/13/2002 5:42:39 PM PST by Donald Stone
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To: OKCSubmariner
Can't say that I disagree with any of the above, but...

be cautious with with your words... people with other ideas are watching...

9 posted on 03/13/2002 5:44:01 PM PST by Lloyd227
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To: eno_
Agent Braga has been in the news recently on another case.
school bus kidnapping

He is mentioned at the end of the article.

10 posted on 03/13/2002 5:45:34 PM PST by ao98
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To: Donald Stone
Thanks for the flag. I'm out of state so I can't catch Ron Smith.
11 posted on 03/13/2002 5:47:30 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Lloyd227
Not to worry... the agent involved feels really, really sorry.
12 posted on 03/13/2002 5:49:10 PM PST by rdww
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To: AAABEST
My suggestion: Have something just as powerful in your own home, teach everyone you know or love how to use it, pass it down to your children and never let anyone take it away from you.

Like this?


13 posted on 03/13/2002 5:50:25 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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P.S. My son is in the black at 100 yds on iron sights. :-)
14 posted on 03/13/2002 5:52:06 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Lloyd227
Boy are they in heavy protection mode or what? They screwed up big time, plain and simple.

Typical FBI.

15 posted on 03/13/2002 5:53:41 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Lloyd227
The only "error" made by the fbi was that the kid did not die.

The shooting was a deliberate,premediated , conscious act by the agent.

The same thing happened at Waco and Ruby Ridge.

The fbi is now, at this point in time infested with sadistic thrill killers who are allowed to kill with impunity.

16 posted on 03/13/2002 5:59:43 PM PST by sport
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To: Lloyd227
Re-reading this, it's so full of holes, I wonder if they said all this stuff with a straight face.
17 posted on 03/13/2002 6:00:27 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Lloyd227
I think these agents, specifically Braga, screwed up big time.

That said, the air gun thing is a total red herring, they were right to consider the real perp, armed and dangerous. The perp had 24,000 to go shopping for a real gun.

18 posted on 03/13/2002 6:04:05 PM PST by TC Rider
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To: Cap'n Crunch; zog; sneakypete
FBI officials have declined to release a photograph of Blottenberger.

He's probably black. What else can I think if the FEEBS aren't releasing a mug shot???

19 posted on 03/13/2002 6:18:01 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Donald Stone
I need help with my reading comprehension. Does this article say that the bank robbery was on Feb 20th and the shooting of Shultz occurred on March 1st?

I thought we were led to believe it was a same day bank robbery mistaken identity incident. I've gone over this article twice. Thanks in advance.

20 posted on 03/13/2002 6:22:02 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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