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Fightin' Whities swamped with T-shirt requests
Denver Post ^ | March 13, 2002 | Coleman Cornelius

Posted on 03/13/2002 9:53:47 AM PST by John Jorsett

The Fightin' Whities, an intramural basketball team of American Indians at the University of Northern Colorado, has been flooded with requests for T-shirts since news broke of the team's satirical mascot protest.

On Tuesday, the student basketball team set up an e-mail account to start taking orders - even though players have not yet figured out exactly how to mass-produce their shirts.

Would-be buyers may send T-shirt requests to fightingwhites@hotmail.com. The team will send back acknowledgments and more information. The system is meant to gauge demand while the team irons out copyright issues and checks university guidelines, said Jeff Van Iwarden, 21, one of the team's few Anglo players.

The Fightin' Whities expect to charge about $20 for their shirts and will donate all profits to a Native American cause that has yet to be determined, Van Iwarden said.

In the course of just two days, as news of the team has exploded nationwide, the players have gained countless fans across the country.

Many are clamoring for T-shirts bearing the team mascot - a 1950s-style caricature of a middle-aged white guy - and the phrase "Every thang's gonna be all white!"

The intramural basketball team's official name is "Native Pride." But the team calls itself the "Fightin' Whites" - and is widely known by the more in-your-face "Fightin' Whities" - as a jab at nearby Eaton High School.

School officials in Eaton, a farm town north of Greeley, have refused to discuss the school's mascot - the Fightin' Reds - despite complaints from area Native Americans who see it as a degrading stereotype.

Eaton High School's mascot is a caricature of an Indian with a misshapen nose, wearing a loincloth and eagle feather.

The UNC team was frustrated that pleas for tolerance were misunderstood or discounted, they said. So the players decided to use some provocative humor to stir up the debate.

"Walk in someone else's shoes, and then you can make a judgment," said Ryan White, 22, a team player and member of the Mohawk Nation.


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To: John Jorsett
"Walk in someone else's shoes, and then you can make a judgment," said Ryan White, 22, a team player and member of the Mohawk Nation.

I have indeed walked in your moccassins, Mr White, and I have made my judgment.

I've decided to order one Fightin' Reds T-shirt(sporting indian w/misshapen nose logo) for my Cherokee half sister and a Fightin' Whities t shirt for your's truly.

21 posted on 03/13/2002 10:19:30 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Dog Gone
LOL! You were reading my mind.

White on! ;-)

22 posted on 03/13/2002 10:19:54 AM PST by ThreePantherEightyDuce
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To: John Jorsett
Help John!
I'm having trouble getting my order placed. The hotmail site doesn't work.
BTW, I wonder do they have them in "off-white"?
Az
23 posted on 03/13/2002 10:19:58 AM PST by azhenfud
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To: Dog Gone
"Walk in someone else's shoes, and then you can make a judgment," said Ryan White, 22, a team player and member of the Mohawk Nation.

No way. It can't get any better than that. I want one of those t-shirts.

24 posted on 03/13/2002 10:22:07 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Dr. Frank
Your whole post is hilarious, but I like this part best:

But there's still the problem: Some people will be buying these T-shirts Because They Like Them. The result will be Actual White People walking around with a T-shirt bearing the slogan "Every thang's gonna be all white!" which came from this university.

LOL

25 posted on 03/13/2002 10:22:08 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: John Jorsett
The Fightin' Whities expect to charge about $20 for their shirts...

...or a bottle of whiskey and some beads?

26 posted on 03/13/2002 10:23:46 AM PST by kaboom
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To: John Jorsett
man i gotta get me one. The wife is half lakota souix and she can beat me at leg wressling at least i will feel like i have an advantage now.BWAHAHAHAHA!
27 posted on 03/13/2002 10:24:45 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: John Jorsett
I could not stop laughing! I made a copy of the article for all my coworkers!
28 posted on 03/13/2002 10:24:54 AM PST by Lion_King
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To: headsonpikes
One of my Pacific Northwest friends was telling me about the bumperstickers they were selling on the rez... "My Heroes Have Always Killed Cowboys" I want one of those, if just for s***s and giggles...
29 posted on 03/13/2002 10:25:15 AM PST by coydog
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To: Howlin
I want to wear this shirt but it says, "everythings gonna be all white." People will think it is a white power shirt and I will get the crap beat out of me!
30 posted on 03/13/2002 10:27:01 AM PST by illbenice
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To: Doomonyou
that's exactly what i was thinking... what's with the "Thang" thing?
31 posted on 03/13/2002 10:27:10 AM PST by latina4dubya
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To: kaboom
I heard yesterday on the radio that a poll was taken and an overwhelming number of Native Americans really don't care about mascots or team names. (Wish I could remember the numbers, drat!) I love "Fightin' Whities." Gonna get one!
32 posted on 03/13/2002 10:27:45 AM PST by In mourning for six years
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Well, if you're gonna feed the piranhas, don't use your hands!
Az
33 posted on 03/13/2002 10:29:39 AM PST by azhenfud
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To: Dr. Frank
"The result will be Actual White People walking around with a T-shirt bearing the slogan "Every thang's gonna be all white!" which came from this university. "

For that reason alone, the University will put the kybosh on the whole deal.

"University tells the frat: You can sell the T-shirt, but only to non-whites, "

I smell discrimination lawsuit.

34 posted on 03/13/2002 10:30:56 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: John Jorsett
ROFL.

Speaking of Mascots, at a Catholic University about 100 miles from here, there is a mascot of a Leprechaun in a fightin' stance. They call themselves the Fighting Irish. I don't see the Irish upset over that. Or the Boston Celtics in a city known for Irish.

If you notice sports teams are named after "tough fighters or animals". You don't see the Detroit Bunny Rabbits, you see the Detroit Lions. There are a reason that you see team names like Bulldogs, Spartans, Wolverines, Fighting Irish, Celtics, Trojans, Jaguars, Lions, Tigers, Grizzlies, Bears, Chippewas, Hurons, Eagles, Timberwolves, Highlanders, Seminoles, and Vikings. You don't see teams named after the rabbits, mice, rats, squirrels, French, peaceniks, and the like.

It's a sign of toughness.

35 posted on 03/13/2002 10:32:45 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
For that reason alone, the University will put the kybosh on the whole deal.

If they do, the students (if they're smart) will go into business for themselves. I hope for their sakes that they're hustling to get Fightin' Whities registered as a trademark.

36 posted on 03/13/2002 10:33:18 AM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
"Walk in someone else's shoes, and then you can make a judgment," said Ryan White, 22, a team player and member of the Mohawk Nation.

I can make a judgement. I choose not to be offended when I see that mascot of a Leprechaun in a fighting stance from a paticular school in South Bend Indiana. I'm Irish. I'm not offended by Notre Dame unless they beat us in football.

37 posted on 03/13/2002 10:34:39 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: over3Owithabrain
I wonder when it will dawn on them that their "protest" had the opposite effect?

What was it that Rush said about "unintended consequences"?
Perhaps they may want to change the mascot picture to George Washington. Now he was a true "fighting Whitey"!
38 posted on 03/13/2002 10:35:29 AM PST by PLOM...NOT!
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To: Dr. Frank
After which somebody starts selling them external to the frat, and the College looks even dumber. . .
39 posted on 03/13/2002 10:35:55 AM PST by Salgak
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To: John Jorsett
My first thought, when I read about this earlier, was "I want that T-shirt". LOL
40 posted on 03/13/2002 10:36:34 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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