Minster charged with having sex with teen

Miami Herald ^ | 3/12/02 | David Green

[AppyPappy]

Do you want the voting age and all other limits moved to 16 as well?

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

And it is not the only religion that has had its share of child molesters.

No foolin'. I'm with ya!

[eaglewatch]

Note that the article has to drag in the Catholic bishop which has nothing to do with the story. And, as I recall, the bishop was not "accused" but rather "confessed" and resigned.

[areafiftyone]

If this guy were a Catholic, it would make the NY Times.

You do have a point there! :-)

[ErnBatavia]

ah, yes....the old bumper sticker: "If this van's rockin'...."

[ThreePantherEightyDuce]

Having read your posts for a while, I vouch for that comment sounding very much in keeping with your dry humor.

This is what you get for being a closet case of a comic. ;-)

[pax_et_bonum]

Thought you might be interested.

[AppyPappy]

Maybe he was "ministering to a troubled boy".

[Revelation 911]

Come on, people. He was just JOKING!

a harsh unfunny joke

[grumpster-dumpster]

"It's a joke. Why are you Catholics so sensitive about this? Is there a reason?"

OK, I accept you meant it as a joke. I also apologize for my response because I didn't see it for being a joke.

As to the sensitivity...
It comes with the territory. I'll give you a personal example: I'm starting a business that is "faith-based" but NOT "Catholic"... it's completely ecumenical. To make a long story short...I recieved "active" resistance from every "Protestant" church I approached once they found out I was Catholic (I'm not making that up or exaggerating... too much! LOL!) I even had one prospective viewer tell me he wouldn't become involved with anything "Catholic." Now maybe I'm just personally frustrated at not being able to find a way to "reach-out" to Protestants when it comes to my business plans.

Not on a personal note: You can check it out for yourself...don't take my word for it. Find a "Thread" that mentions a problem with any "Christian" faith... within the 1st 50-100 posts you'll find an "anti-Catholic" comment. The subject may not even be about the Catholic Church (like as this thread)...it doesn't matter, the "Catholic Bashers" come-by and take their cheap shots. Lord help you if the word "Catholic" or "Pope" appears in the title...then they come in droves!

What these "Bashers" don't understand is we Catholics are willing to discuss the problems within the "structure" of the church...but we will not put up with an attack against our Faith!

As for me...I truly believe in everything Jesus taught...except that "Turn the other cheek stuff." LOL!

[cake_crumb]

"I'm tired of the church accepting perverts under the guise of "tolerance"."

We-ellll....I doubt that any church has a standardized question asking "Have you ever, or do you in the future, intend to engage in any type of perverted behavior?"

I know how you feel, though. In the past ten years, the church has been turning itself inside out in the name of "tolorance".

The worst thing churches have done to themselves was to embrace the PC agenda.

[grumpster-dumpster]

"If only the Baptists would do away with that out of date celibacy rule."

Or sell all those "art treasures" to feed the poor. < /sarcasm>

[pax_et_bonum]

"a harsh unfunny joke"

Well, I didn't find it harsh or unfunny.

There is nothing for which I am more thankful for than my sense of humor. Without it I would be, at best, dead.

:)

[Askel5]

I'm tired of the church accepting perverts under the guise of "tolerance".

He was married, wasn't he?

That's supposed to solve ALL the problems. No worries there.

(Unless, of course, you've some passing familiarity -- however discomfiting -- of the ratio of "happily married men" who patronize the bath houses and back rooms of New Orleans gay bars while on business. Lot more bang for your buck than a $1,000 membership at Larry "Free Speech" Flynt's Hustler club.)

[Registered]

Divinity from Vanderbilt. You make the call. (Gore couldn't make it there remember?)

[pax_et_bonum]

A duck walks into a bar.

"Got any grapes?" he asks the bartender.

"Nope."

So the duck leaves.

The next day, the duck comes back.

"Got any grapes?" he asks.

"Nope," says the bartender.

The next day....the duck comes back again.

"Got any grapes?"

"Look, duck," says the bartender, "I didn't have any grapes yesterday, I don't have any today, and I'm not going to have any tomorrow. And if you come back here asking for grapes again, I'm gonna nail your feet to the bar."

The duck leaves....

The next day, the duck comes back.

He walks up to the bartender.

"Got any nails?"

"Nope."

"Got any grapes?"

:)

[Pablo64]

''He's been a faithful pastor and his service has been noteworthy,'' said Rev. David Cleeland..."

NO! WRONG!!

If he had been "faithful" he would not be engaging in sodomy with children!!!!

[RnMomof7]

You know that like you I am an "ex". But you and I know that this is not a "Catholic" problem" It is a sin problem.

The church will have to allow the marriage of it's priests if they want this stain on the church to go away. Their policy has made the priesthood a "respectable" place for a 40 year old single man..no none asks questions..

[Askel5]

He was probably a closet Catholic

Lol! Is that what you said? A pity we've grown every bit as jumpy and sensitive as some leftist site.

Who was it that said the taking of offense is a sign of the end times?

Maybe we could petition John for an "Old Style" FR forum where it's read-only unless you've been here since '98 or actually possess BOTH a sense of humor and a thick skin and have been invited in. =)

Killings of evangelicals by Catholics in Chiapas, Mexico, are a sore issue for many Latino Protestants

I have a friend who spends a fair amount of time in Chiapas en route to his amber connection and keeps me up to date on how the marxist radicals are Progressing. Hard to believe the Protestants aren't likewise hip to the crux of the problem. =)

I really appreciate the flag more than you know. I've never actually heard an evangelical make mention of the fact it's Catholics they're down there to "convert to Christianity".

Secret's out now!

(Sorta puts the Protestant huffing and puffing over Domine Iejus in perspective ... =)

[johniegrad]

This would never have happened if Baptist ministers were allowed to get married.