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Common Creationist Arguments - Pseudoscience
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Creationism/Arguments/Pseudoscience.shtml ^

Posted on 03/13/2002 4:47:26 AM PST by JediGirl

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To: PatrickHenry
This thread is now under religion
2,421 posted on 03/30/2002 4:57:58 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
This thread is now under religion

Thus breaking various links and confusing the heck out of jennyp for one, who thought it had been deleted.

2,422 posted on 03/30/2002 5:57:06 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: RadioAstronomer
this thread is now under religion

guess it needed some divine guidance. LOL.

2,423 posted on 03/30/2002 5:59:53 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins
LOL!!!
2,424 posted on 03/30/2002 6:08:04 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
This thread is now under religion

Well, I always wanted to be a swami. Of course, I always wanted to be a flasher too. And a teapot. So much ambition, so little time ...

2,425 posted on 03/30/2002 8:05:17 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
And a teapot

ROTFLMAO!!! You actually made me laugh out loud! :-)

2,426 posted on 03/30/2002 8:17:47 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Seti 1
Yeah the little voices I have been hearing lately... Beast Train!
2,427 posted on 03/30/2002 8:44:34 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: VadeRetro; godel
I may be remembering this wrong, but I think a year or so ago godel ran a poll about evolution vs creation, and two creationists were found to be cheating, big time. Am I correct in recollecting that f.christian was one of those two?
2,428 posted on 03/30/2002 10:53:22 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
The more interesting result was that (after multiple responders were subtracted) many more different Es than Cs responded, a result one would not expect from merely tallying the posters to crevo threads. The implication was that creationists are a vocal, militant minority.
2,429 posted on 03/30/2002 11:17:08 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
The more interesting result was that (after multiple responders were subtracted) many more different Es than Cs responded, a result one would not expect from merely tallying the posters to crevo threads. The implication was that creationists are a vocal, militant minority.

Another interesting result was that the only "abusers" of the poll (individuals "voting" hundreds of times) were anti-E's.....

2,430 posted on 03/30/2002 3:21:20 PM PST by longshadow
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To: Vaderetro, longshadow, PatrickHenry
Yep he was one of the abusers of the poll. But he only stuffed the ballot box 400 times. Another creationist stuffed the box nearly 900 times.

It just goes to show that sometimes when you conduct an experiment expecting one result or another, you can find yourself learning a great deal about something completely different. Admittedly the poll is a small sample, but I do find it striking that both of the abusers were anti-evolutionists, even though the logs show that the poll was visited by twice as many pro-evolutionists.

I agree with your analysis, the data does tend to show that creationists tend to be a vocal fringe minority which attempts to amplify their perceived influence wherever possible.

2,431 posted on 03/30/2002 4:19:30 PM PST by Godel
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To: Godel
Good News For The Day

‘I am the truth. . ..’(John 14:6)

"For most of time, men and women have assumed that the truth was there to be found out. This began to change in the 19th century and the change gathered pace in the 20th. As people began to question the existence of God, it became obvious to some, that the existence of truth requires the existence of God. With God dismissed, it became impossible to conceive of truth in any absolute sense. This has resulted in the humiliation of truth. Truth is now whatever you would like it to be."

"Truth's demise has filtered down through the great centers of learning, the arts, and on into streets and homes. Everything is possible with truth gone. Everything is permissible. Musicians make music that doesn't sound musical. Painters paint pictures that are incomprehensible to normal folk. Playwrights write plays that are nonsense, and architects design buildings that no one can understand. All this is put forward as legitimate, but what does it all mean?"

"No matter how much popular culture is encouraged to believe in the relativity of truth, no one can build a decent life on such a notion. Inevitably proponents of freedom from God, and from absolute truth, are obliged to reach outside of their own system, and borrow something from theism in order to make their lives work. The person who believes that everything is valid, will soon find that he is condemned to meaninglessness. Christ is a standing offer of escape from such a hell as this To believe that truth is like Christ, is salvation indeed..."

‘I am the truth. . ..’(John 14:6) "For most of time, men and women have assumed that the truth was there to be found out. This began to change in the 19th century and the change gathered pace in the 20th. As people began to question the existence of God, it became obvious to some, that the existence of truth requires the existence of God. With God dismissed, it became impossible to conceive of truth in any absolute sense. This has resulted in the humiliation of truth. Truth is now whatever you would like it to be."

"Truth's demise has filtered down through the great centers of learning, the arts, and on into streets and homes. Everything is possible with truth gone. Everything is permissible. Musicians make music that doesn't sound musical. Painters paint pictures that are incomprehensible to normal folk. Playwrights write plays that are nonsense, and architects design buildings that no one can understand. All this is put forward as legitimate, but what does it all mean?" "No matter how much popular culture is encouraged to believe in the relativity of truth, no one can build a decent life on such a notion. Inevitably proponents of freedom from God, and from absolute truth, are obliged to reach outside of their own system, and borrow something from theism in order to make their lives work. The person who believes that everything is valid, will soon find that he is condemned to meaninglessness. Christ is a standing offer of escape from such a hell as this To believe that truth is like Christ, is salvation indeed..."

the Truth and the... Resurrection!

2,432 posted on 03/31/2002 10:25:01 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: All
"Happiness is an empty colon."
-- Socrates (the lost archives)
2,433 posted on 03/31/2002 11:41:34 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Yeah when is happy evolution found the missing link day...send me an e-mail---draw up something cute for the kiddees!
2,434 posted on 03/31/2002 12:05:44 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Why would someone who claims to support the truth, use dishonest methods to support his point of view?
2,435 posted on 03/31/2002 1:46:38 PM PST by Godel
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To: Godel
Why would anyone post liberalism--a poll...on a conservative site?
2,436 posted on 03/31/2002 2:24:21 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Science is not liberal or conservative, although liberals have a tendency to gloss over unpalatable truths and replace them with pleasant sounding fantasies completely unsupported by fact.
2,437 posted on 03/31/2002 3:28:38 PM PST by Godel
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To: Godel
Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past.
-- Patrick Henry (the real one)


2,438 posted on 03/31/2002 3:41:32 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro
Time-marker.
2,439 posted on 03/31/2002 4:33:16 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
Thank you for posting that. It almost saddens me how diminished and corrupted we are compared to the greatness from whence we sprung. We should be ashamed of ourselves for corrupting their noble dreams. Oh well, perhaps someday we can put things right again.
2,440 posted on 03/31/2002 8:41:47 PM PST by Godel
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