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Congress OKs Amnesty for Illegal Aliens
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| 3/13/02
| Jeff Johnson
Posted on 03/12/2002 5:23:05 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Maybe Bush thinks we'll forget all about it by 2004
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posted on
03/12/2002 5:58:03 PM PST
by
virgil
To: hchutch
I appreciate it, when you get a chance maybe list some things which were traded. I haven't responded to the negative comments not knowing enough about it. I saw the story come up so I figured it was developing.
To: Mulder
"Those bastards give a bunch of thrid-world and largely illiterate citizens amnesty, while treating Free Americans like prisoners at the airports." Don't forget...through this amnesty many illegal aliens will now be government employees who are entrusted through law with treating legal American citizens like "prisoners at airports".
To: goldstategop
My freshman republican congress critter voted Yea. They must be showing him the ropes in congress. I will have to find someone else to vote for in 3 more years I guess. The next time he walks into our coffee shop he will get qrilled on the spot. The last time he wanted my vote, the next time he won't get it.
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:07:56 PM PST
by
chainsaw
To: hchutch
This Thread has Sensenbrenner's release. It looks like this thing is NOT as bad as we thought. We traded a four-month period for people to apply for amnesty and got a bunch of other stuff. I think it may turn out to be as bad as we think, the illegal immigration problems we have today, are in part a result of the past amnesty programs. Those wanting to immigrate here will be encouraged to do so in hopes of another amnesty in a few years. This amnesty program combined with the absense of any desire by our elected officials, to control our borders, could easily lead to an acceleration of the existing problems.
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:08:17 PM PST
by
c-b 1
To: sarcasm
And Daschle promptly bottled it up.
Then again, you "my way or the highway" types can't get some things straight, either. Sometimes, you need to provide yourself with cover, and give folks one last chance to do the right thing before you drop the hammer on `em.
Again, this bill takes one item, and we stuff a lot of what we want on it. Like taking a minimum-wage bill, and adding some big-time tax cuts to the mix. Do you kill the tax cut over an increased minimum wage, or do you take a bill that has a lot of what you want?
Four months (or less, since the bill says four months of November 30, 2002, whichever comes FIRST) to apply for amnesty is not what I'd have done, but if we get a good package of visa/border security stuff in return, then I'll make that trade, especially since it allows me to be a little tougher on those who DON'T have proof of applying for the amensty after those four months are up.
Believe me, I had a VERY small taste of this when the Brewers made a three-team trade that sent Jeromy Burnitz to the Mets. At the time, it was hard to swallow, but now, it looks like we got a better team out of the bargain, especially since we ditched a good but injury-prone pitcher for a guy who stays healthy, and we got a good 4th outfielder in the bargain.
Let's see how all this shakes out. For all we know, Daschle will still kill the thing, and we can beat the DEMS up with the race card for a change. We do NOT have 535 people like Ron Paul, Jesse Helms, Jeff Flake, Bob Barr and Rick Santorum in Congress at present, so making things 100% perfect TOMORROW is not going to happen.
But we can begin a rebuilding process, and get things on the right track. I'll take the time to rebuild, and do it RIGHT.
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:09:25 PM PST
by
hchutch
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To: c-b 1
Then how do we explain the 2,000 additional INS people in the bill? This looks like a carrot-and-stick approach.
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:10:47 PM PST
by
hchutch
To: chainsaw
Amen. Hold them accountable and clean the filth out of our party. I mean the liberal filth.
To: hchutch
Bwahahaha!!! The 2,000 are all there to make sure all those wonderful "undocumenteds" get immediate green card approval.
To: Amerigomag
Bush just lost 4 votes in my household...The 44th president will be Dasshole, Face it RINO's
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:12:32 PM PST
by
alphadog
To: hchutch
Daschle didn't hold it up - it was Byrd of West Virginia - get your facts straight.
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:14:31 PM PST
by
sarcasm
To: unamused
Not that nutcase please.
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:16:38 PM PST
by
jslade
To: jslade
I will not vote for BUSH again.
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:17:26 PM PST
by
Jimbaugh
To: goldstategop
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/645344/posts
The press release is at the thread above. Cut and paste that if you want to see what else was in this bill. But if you wish to remain short-sighted on this...
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:17:46 PM PST
by
hchutch
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Congress OKs Amnesty for Illegal AliensNewsMax When you're done screaming about facts you don't have, read this -
Press release
And the next time I refer to NewsMax as the National Enquirer of the right, you'll know why.
But for the time beating, keep beating your chests about how GWB lost your vote. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts he didn't have it anyway.
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:19:31 PM PST
by
Cable225
To: Hildy
I think this is a knee-jerk reaction. When people like Ron Paul, Tom Delay, and Lamar Smith voted YEA - then I'm stepping back and taking a closer look. These are some of the most conservative, most constitutionalist representatives I know!!!!! ESPECIALLY RON PAUL - check out his record sometime!
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:21:18 PM PST
by
Alissa
To: alphadog
The 44th president will be Dasshole, Face it RINO's Not likely.
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posted on
03/12/2002 6:21:29 PM PST
by
sinkspur
To: hchutch
Let's see how all this shakes out. For all we know, Daschle will still kill the thing, and we can beat the DEMS up with the race card for a change. We do NOT have 535 people like Ron Paul, Jesse Helms, Jeff Flake, Bob Barr and Rick Santorum in Congress at present, so making things 100% perfect TOMORROW is not going to happen. Ron Paul voted for it... i thought he would since libertarians believe in open borders, as well as a constitutionally limited government.
Jesse Helms and Rick Santorum are senators not congresscritters.
Jeff Flake and Bob Barr did vote against it.
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