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What's his theory? He was kind enough to reveal it in several posts on a previous Pentagon thread. I'll save him the trouble of posting it again.

Ladies and gentleman, without further comment, I give you the musings of demdesur:

I bet Barbara Olson is alive in some shadow government office (I fully realize how stupid this sounds). Ted was totally unconvincing after her death and is now hanging out with some 25 year old doll... not exactly what you would expect. As for the rest of the listed passengers... I'd have to go through each one individually but this question is the common sense achilles heal of saying a plane didn't hit the Pentagon. Having said that I still think no plane hit the Pentagon and the Olson stuff was all a good show.

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This is a square demolition. A plane would have messed up the grass directly in front of the building which it did not (not open for discussion). A plane would have gone through 3 rings of the building which MSNBC just reported... look at the picture below and previous pictures and you'll see the demolition only took out the first ring.

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This obviously is a huge intel operation (hence random military witnesses and some non-military witnesses... none that saw both plane and explosion... many that saw one or the other) and they could get away with it fine if they just had more explosives to the left of the building to avoid the straight left wall which gives it away. If the left wall wasn't perfectly straight I would address the passengers but I don't even need to go there (you explain the left straight wall and I'll look into the passenger list.

FWIW, I think the Mossad is blackmailing the US with stuff Deutch downloaded to his personal computer and the roque elements in the DIA/CIA and/or Mossad did the WTC and the Pentagon had a backup plan to avoid being framed... or to remove itself as a suspect (also to save its "allies" and credibility in the world)... they blew up the demolitions (probably plan z) and didn't do a good enough job with the demolotions... oh, another thing that gives it away is the Pentagon has security cameras all over the damn place!!! Duh.

This theory is not comforting but it is the only thing I can come up with that is realistic. Having said that I'm heading for comfort and leaving this thread. Regardless, Bush is a military/oil industrial complex whore!

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The ironic part is I don't think the demolition was part of the planned attacks. I think the Pentagon was in self defense mode (as illogical as that sounds) so some entity is powerful enough to make the Pentagon go to contingency rope-a-dope deflection plan. The only entity that is powerful enough to do that is the Mossad... so although you think US shadow government/intel types might track me down and get rid of me the real people I'm afraid of are the same ones Bush is afraid of. So I'm hoping Bush, Cheney & Powell get out of their bedwetting mode and start addressing the real terror issue, the Israeli blackmailing of the US government rather than squeezing (and scaring the hell out of) the American people. Obviously, Bush et. all have a lot of skeletons in their closets (along with the country) or the blackmail wouldn't have worked.

This is all high level, shadow government, high levels of DIA, CIA, FBI, State Dept. and Mossad -hit. Also, there are millions of people (maybe a billion) that don't think Bin Laden did the WTC (and hundreds of quality web sites pointing out inaccurcies similar to the things I have pointed out... and they are growing really fast). I don't think the Mossad, Mossad operatives and "blackmailed" Americans in the US plan to assasinate a billion people and close the internet! And I don't think Bush and crowd are evil (although I haven't ruled it out!)... I just think they are in a horrible predicament... probably why W. was crying the other day. The bottom line is, in the information world we live in today the truth is going to come out soon enough (look at TWA 800) so it's best to get everything in the open and just deal with it the best you can and try to encourage and nurture transparency instead of clueless cold war espionage tactics in a POST cold war world (hint, it doesn't work any more). My two cents. Don't shoot me.

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Actually, that is one theory above. Another is the Kissinger, Brezinski, Bush Sr., Cheney, Scowcroft crowd seemed to be surprisingly non-plussed by the whole thing. The timing is extremely suspicious... and the Bush admin's policy directions seemed to be proactive vs. reactive which is a bit disturbing. Who knows, I don't but I refuse to have my freedom of speech taken away by lying scoundrels saying trust us, you don't need the facts and, by the way, shut the hell up or we will kill you. -uck that.

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What's his theory? He was kind enough to reveal it in several posts on a previous Pentagon thread.

Thanks. A number of those threads were nuked.

Ted was totally unconvincing after her death and is now hanging out with some 25 year old doll... not exactly what you would expect.

To the contrary, it makes sense.

I too went through a traumatic event last year, and could not repeat the same level of "convincing" each & every time I recounted the tale to someone. Eventually someone commented on how dispassionately I told the story, and I pointed out that I simply had no more emotional energy to expend on it.

As for the "25 year old doll": not an uncommon way to cope. He just lost his wife, and was smacked in the face with his own mortality; many deal with this at a base level by seeking to procreate rather promptly.

A plane would have messed up the grass directly in front of the building which it did not (not open for discussion).

Oh, suddenly a point is not open for discussion without any evidence? PROVE IT. When a TFHer stops discussion cold on a point, that's ususally regarding the best proof he's wrong.

A plane would have gone through 3 rings of the building which MSNBC just reported... look at the picture below and previous pictures and you'll see the demolition only took out the first ring.

I look at the top-down photo, and it's plain as day that the impact punctured the first ring, and continued to puncture & damage the inner rings with progressively less damage. Comparing before & after shots makes it plain. That the structures were strong substantially lessened the damage per ring, but there is damage nonetheless.

none that saw both plane and explosion...

BS. That few saw both is reasonable, as it came in low and fast; few are observant enough to react & watch. We've even got it on video (the parking lot camera).

This theory is not comforting but it is the only thing I can come up with that is realistic.

And it's downright pathetic. Why COULDN'T a terrorist hijack a plane and drive it into the biggest building in DC? There are indeed people on this planet who hate the USA that much, hijackings do happen, and it's hard to not hit the Pentagon if you're trying to hit it.

That bears repeating: WHY _NOT_ A TERRORIST-DRIVEN CRASH??? Just because you, and armchair conspiracist, can't immediately explain a few bits of photos & burrowcrap drivel doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just because someone's tone of voice seems a bit off, and few millimeters of photo look odd, doesn't mean squat. I've seen car crashes in person, examined them, and realized that nuanced "evidence" is more likely misunderstood than proof of my impressions.

This conspiratorial drivel is just pathetic. "It wasn't terrorists crashing planes...it must be the Mossad & CIA who planted thousands of pounds of explosives at one of the nation's most secure sites, stole an airliner, flew it toward the point but missed at the last second, then made it and all the passengers disappear in-flight, and faked surveilance camera footage, and got most of the crash patterns right, and managed to keep absolutely everyone who knew silent, and and..., all just to hide a little blackmail" SHEESH! This drivel is pathetic. I do not rightly apprehend the mindset which rejects the simple and obvious in favor for the incredibly complex yet pointless.